| mickmate |
08-13-2014 05:57 PM |
427 ignition warning/charge light
Anyone know what it was sourced from in the originals?
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Nick, isn't it the standard large Lucas indicator lamp? (the chrome beveled one)
As you know, I don't know as much about the coil spring cars as I do the leaf spring cars.
So I could be wrong.
Larry
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| Cobra #3170 |
08-13-2014 08:39 PM |
Charge light
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickmate
(Post 1314409)
Anyone know what it was sourced from in the originals?
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Nic,
Mine is a crappy plastic push in with no bezel, and it just burned out so if you find a source I need one too. |
| rsk289 |
08-13-2014 11:57 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cobra #3170
(Post 1314421)
Nic,
Mine is a crappy plastic push in with no bezel, and it just burned out so if you find a source I need one too.
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If it's the same as the 289, it will be a big red plastic push in, with a screw-on chrome bezel. TR4-4A and several others.
Don't think the original had all the copper windings shown in the above pic.
Roger |
| mickmate |
08-14-2014 04:41 AM |
That is the Lucas WL12 light. I am looking for the red plastic bulbous lens without the big chromed slotted bezel. I'll try and find a decent picture. Bruce I believe they are wired with a resistor in them so if the bulb blows the charge light circuit still has a load and works.
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| rsk289 |
08-14-2014 04:56 AM |
OK, post a pic and I'll see if it triggers any sixties Brit memories. I too know nothing of coil-spring cars.
The windings sound like a good idea, although such a thing was never done in period as far as I know. A few years back the bulbholder fell out of the back of my WL12 ign lamp, and shorted on the frame. This popped the diode pack in the alternator which wasn't very helpful.
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| mickmate |
08-14-2014 05:28 AM |
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| rsk289 |
08-14-2014 05:34 AM |
Nope, never seen one of those before. In an odd position, too...
It's not mainstream UK. I'd say it's either an aftermarket addition, or something Shelby did in the US, probably more likely. Pretty sure that's not a Lucas part.
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I don't recognize that lamp either. Is that original?
Larry
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| Dan Case |
08-14-2014 07:35 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
(Post 1314475)
I don't recognize that lamp either. Is that original?
Larry
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Matches the ones in my photo collection for 427 Cobras.
I don't see it listed in the AC Cars Lucas O.E.M. application spare parts list that Lucas published for their brand of service replacements so the revision of the list that I have won't help. |
| Cobra #3170 |
08-14-2014 07:40 AM |
Charge light
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickmate
(Post 1314447)
That is the Lucas WL12 light. I am looking for the red plastic bulbous lens without the big chromed slotted bezel. I'll try and find a decent picture. Bruce I believe they are wired with a resistor in them so if the bulb blows the charge light circuit still has a load and works.
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Nic,
I just use mine as a reminder that the main power switch is on, I have a Toyota Camry 65 amp 1 wire alternator so don't use that function anymore. Yes, I still have the original Ford 55 amp Alt and regulator. I had to have more power with
2 fuel pumps, fuel injection, MSD ignition, big pusher fan and electric water pump because the total draw is around 55 amps and the injection does not function well below 13 volts. My light looks like it is from the states, it has a "living hinge" type retainer that is part of the lamp molding and a grain of wheat type bulb. I will take some pictures when I start preping the car for my next event. It is quite possible that I replaced the original sometime back but I do not remember changing it (no surprise there). |
| DanEC |
08-14-2014 09:09 AM |
Did AC Aces have a charging circuit light? Possibly it was a Shelby/Ford adaption due to the use of Ford alternators and voltage regulators.:confused:
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| rsk289 |
08-14-2014 09:19 AM |
Aces were all Lucas, like the COB cars. Pretty sure you're looking at a US part there. It is not a British lamp.
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| blue sky |
08-14-2014 09:53 AM |
Nick, Those were US sourced lamps (sorry don't know the source). AC supplied the Mk3 with a WL13 lamp for the ignition, same style as the turn and high beam lamp but with a special bulb holder. Lucas also idenitifies the lamp in their supply list for the Mk3 to AC. Some cars had them back then but most probably didn't. Experts will know more about number specifics. Shelby's group probably changed them out for reasons Roger spoke of, if the bulb holder comes out there is a short possiblilty.
AJ
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| mickmate |
08-14-2014 11:30 AM |
Some used this and I agree it was probably US sourced to go with charging system. The Lucas WL12 was also used I'm just not sure in the production sequence which used what.
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| rsk289 |
08-14-2014 11:42 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by mickmate
(Post 1314505)
Some used this and I agree it was probably US sourced to go with charging system. The Lucas WL12 was also used I'm just not sure in the production sequence which used what.
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British hand-made sports car? Production sequence?
Oops, need an ignition warning light for this car. I'll just pick up this one lying closest to me on the bench...
A friend has a 4.2 E-type, owned it since new, multiple concours winner. Half the rear decking is fixed in with crosshead screws, the other side with slotted head. One side plain brass, the other chromed. Like it from new. And to cap it all - it has a Daimler VIN plate! Apparently they ran out of Jaguar ones that day... |
| slider701 |
08-14-2014 08:36 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289
(Post 1314506)
British hand-made sports car? Production sequence?
Oops, need an ignition warning light for this car. I'll just pick up this one lying closest to me on the bench...
A friend has a 4.2 E-type, owned it since new, multiple concours winner. Half the rear decking is fixed in with crosshead screws, the other side with slotted head. One side plain brass, the other chromed. Like it from new. And to cap it all - it has a Daimler VIN plate! Apparently they ran out of Jaguar ones that day...
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It wasn't much different on the Ford GT program as we went to production. We were out buying small machine screws at Home Depot for the window trim as we tried to to fix window binding and seal issues. I guess we weren't too far from true Shelby heritage after all :LOL: |
| DanEC |
08-15-2014 03:56 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289
(Post 1314506)
British hand-made sports car? Production sequence?
Oops, need an ignition warning light for this car. I'll just pick up this one lying closest to me on the bench...
A friend has a 4.2 E-type, owned it since new, multiple concours winner. Half the rear decking is fixed in with crosshead screws, the other side with slotted head. One side plain brass, the other chromed. Like it from new. And to cap it all - it has a Daimler VIN plate! Apparently they ran out of Jaguar ones that day...
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I'm sorry to say that you've destroyed an illusion of E-types that I've had since I sat in my first one back about 1970. I always thought of Jaguar as premium English cars with impeccable quality and with high standards of assembly. Silly me. :LOL: |
| rsk289 |
08-15-2014 05:24 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
(Post 1314596)
I'm sorry to say that you've destroyed an illusion of E-types that I've had since I sat in my first one back about 1970. I always thought of Jaguar as premium English cars with impeccable quality and with high standards of assembly. Silly me. :LOL:
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Well - they were cheap, and definitely built down to a price.
E-types have never done it for me: the wheels are hidden down in the arches, there's absolutely no space in them, the cockpit is cramped, they're fragile, and too, well, obvious.
If you want premium sixties quality and high standards of assembly, look at Bristol, Bentley, Jensen etc. |
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