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03-29-2016, 11:01 AM
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Door pins and sockets
I've tried a search but not coming up with anything. I do remember discussion in the past regarding the locating pins and sockets in the top front edge of the door frames and body - does anyone have photos or construction details of these?
Also, is there any technical infomation available regarding the sidescreen locating buffers at the top of the windscreen sides?
Thanks,
Roger
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03-29-2016, 12:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
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John Bessey would, he has a naked car in his shop.....
Mine are visible however car is in storage, will have on the 11th
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03-29-2016, 01:19 PM
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Thanks Jeff - the photo shows the hinge pins. I wasn't very clear - I meant the small pins on the dash tube that engage with a socket in the front of the door when the door is closed. Sorry!
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03-29-2016, 01:39 PM
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Or are you speaking of that bullet thing in front of the door top frame?
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03-29-2016, 01:40 PM
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Yes, that's the chap!
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03-29-2016, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289
Thanks Jeff - the photo shows the hinge pins. I wasn't very clear - I meant the small pins on the dash tube that engage with a socket in the front of the door when the door is closed. Sorry!
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Brass pins were used on about the first 100 Cobras which required a 'receiver' hole in the door frame. After that a rubber bumper was used. The same bumper was used for the side curtains.
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03-29-2016, 01:50 PM
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So the later cars just had a rubber bumper mounted on the dash panel tubing? No socket or indent for it to fit into on the door? Was it attached merely by the pointy end being pushed into a hole in the tubing/aluminum?
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03-29-2016, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289
So the later cars just had a rubber bumper mounted on the dash panel tubing? No socket or indent for it to fit into on the door? Was it attached merely by the pointy end being pushed into a hole in the tubing/aluminum?
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The 'receiver' hole was filled with a countersunk head screw that provided a flat surface for the rubber bumper to push against.
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03-29-2016, 01:58 PM
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So quite easy to replicate - simply drill a hole and fit a rubber bumper of the correct profile to the dash, and drill, tap and fit a screw to the door...
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03-29-2016, 02:06 PM
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Quote:
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So quite easy to replicate - simply drill a hole and fit a rubber bumper of the correct profile to the dash, and drill, tap and fit a screw to the door...
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Door frame was not threaded. There is a lock washer and nut that held the machine screw.
The bumper would hit against the door frame anyway so no screw would be required.
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03-29-2016, 02:08 PM
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The big question... is the rubber bumper reproduced?
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03-29-2016, 02:11 PM
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From John Bessey at Racewhere
It's 1/4" whitwoth
From an early car......
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03-29-2016, 02:11 PM
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The big question... is the rubber bumper reproduced?
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Of course. Rare Drive may have them for restorations but I don't know if they sell them.
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03-29-2016, 02:29 PM
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I think I've seen virtually the same rubber bumper at Ace Hardware. I'll check next time I'm there.
Larry
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03-29-2016, 02:32 PM
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Larry
I bought the last set from Ace Hardware.
Of course the 1/4" whitwoth is not domestic item.
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03-29-2016, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsk289
I've tried a search but not coming up with anything. I do remember discussion in the past regarding the locating pins and sockets in the top front edge of the door frames and body - does anyone have photos or construction details of these?
Also, is there any technical infomation available regarding the sidescreen locating buffers at the top of the windscreen sides?
Thanks,
Roger
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As A-Snake reports, all but the earliest Cobras used a rubber bumper in place of the brass taper pins and ancillaries. The door frames retained the tube steel socket but instead of being a socket for the pin to mate with a ¼ BSW plain slotted steel flat head screw, plain steel hex nut, and black oxide knurled spiral split lock washer set of pieces was used in the socket. The flat head of the screw became the anvil for the rubber bumper to hit.
The rubber bumper is the same one used at the upper windscreen frame to steady side curtains. A tiny chrome plated steel bracket is fixed to the windscreen frame on each side of the car with a single screw.
I had a mold made years ago and many parts were made. I don’t have them for sale though. My excess went to some shops and they use them in restorations. They were not cheap to recreate in exact detail.
Dan
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03-29-2016, 05:18 PM
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Quote:
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As A-Snake reports, all but the earliest Cobras used a rubber bumper in place of the brass taper pins and ancillaries. The door frames retained the tube steel socket but instead of being a socket for the pin to mate with a ¼ BSW plain slotted steel flat head screw, plain steel hex nut, and black oxide knurled spiral split lock washer set of pieces was used in the socket. The flat head of the screw became the anvil for the rubber bumper to hit.
The rubber bumper is the same one used at the upper windscreen frame to steady side curtains. A tiny chrome plated steel bracket is fixed to the windscreen frame on each side of the car with a single screw.
I had a mold made years ago and many parts were made. I don’t have them for sale though. My excess went to some shops and they use them in restorations. They were not cheap to recreate in exact detail.
Dan
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Do you by chance have a picture of the rubber bumper mounted on the upper windscreen frame to steady the side curtains?
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03-29-2016, 05:25 PM
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Quote:
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Do you by chance have a picture of the rubber bumper mounted on the upper windscreen frame to steady the side curtains?
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I didn't see one in the file. I did the reverse engineering on the bracket also years ago and shops have them made as they need them. To fit just like AC Cars did them they must be fit to each location for drilling the holes in the windscreen frame.
Dan
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03-29-2016, 05:32 PM
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OK - thanks
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03-29-2016, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
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Do you by chance have a picture of the rubber bumper mounted on the upper windscreen frame to steady the side curtains?
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Here you go.
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