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Old 01-07-2019, 03:04 AM
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I've no information if this clip was ever used for Cobras.
I'm sure Larry will know the answer.

Yes, they are AF
5/16"x3/8"
7/16"x1/2"
9/16"x5/8"
11/16"x3/4"
13/16"x7/8"
Not sure if 100% correct for a 289 Cobra
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Won't be correct, I'm afraid, as Cobra spanners were all Whitworth, mostly fine. That said, what you have is probably what I will use, because my car has AF chassis fasteners so the spanners can actually be used roadside if necessary. My view is that any onlooker who's interested but doesn't know the cars intimately will be none the wiser (old o/e spanners, Imperial sizes, etc.) - and those who do, will long ago have realised they are looking at a replica by a quick glance at the chassis number. There was never a COB67**.
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I've no information if this clip was ever used for Cobras.
I'm sure Larry will know the answer.

I’m not 100% sure but every original I’ve examined did use the spring metal clip. You have to note though that tool kits could be purchased through SA and AC Cars after production ceased on the Cobra and Cobra 427. Some original cars didn’t come with a tool kit, at least as far as the original buyer knows. One owner in our circle never got one with his car and he is the first owner. Somewhere between AC Cars and him, it went lost.
Anyway, not all tool kits in current cars were what came with the car day one, given that it did come with one. Question is, would a concours judge take points off on an original car if the tool kit had a thumb screw wrench clip? Having been involved in a number of concours events with Cobras, doubtful.
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Hi Roger
I'm fully on your side and I'm happy to own this Elora Wrenches as they are good enough for me.

And if someone is able to see in the trunk if they are AF or W he's by fare TOOOO close to my 289 and my two cousins Toto and Franco will take care he’ll never try again…!


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Ha! Great photo. How on earth did those two come to be wearing CS shirts? Probably better not ask.
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I've decided to cover both bases. I've ordered a new set of Elora AF spanners, which can be the functional set, and a set of Whitworth spanners from this seller:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/lee.k.201...p2047675.l2562

- who has a huge inventory and is very helpful. Then I just have to remember to switch them over, depending on where I'm going and whether or not there's going to be a problem with the car.

Easy!

By the way, just in case anyone's interested, King Dick have been trading since 1856 and have been in their current factory since 1927.

https://www.kingdicktools.co.uk/index.asp

I was at a presentation a couple of months ago, and they have a full range of 'heritage' tools in the pipeline. Nice stuff but won't interest the originality nerds. I mean, a combination ratchet Whitworth spanner?? Nice tools, though!
Just found the link for the heritage tools:

https://www.akdheritagecollection.co.uk

As I said, nothing really for us there but I think it's a great venture for someone to be doing these for the classic market. I should add that I am now the Heritage Manager for the FBHVC, which is the UK equivalent of the HVA in the US.

https://www.historicvehicle.org
http://fbhvc.co.uk
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Ha! Great photo. How on earth did those two come to be wearing CS shirts? Probably better not ask.
They did work for Shelby during the Targa Florio 1964.
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They did work for Shelby during the Targa Florio 1964.
Incredible! Sicilians not supporting Vaccarella!

Probably sabotaging SAI from the inside...
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Just to note: The Whitworth 'set'* I have bought from Lee, the UK seller on ebay, is marked with 'BSF' sizes on the 'Elora No.100 Made in Germany' side, and 'BSW' sizes on the 'CHROM-VANADIUM' side. All these spanners are marked the same way, no spelling variations. 'Chrom' is clearly not a spelling mistake or tooling fault, it's German for 'Chrome'. I would guess that variations occurring in sets 50 years on are mostly down to items getting mixed and matched - most boxed sets when new would have had consistent markings, I'd think.

* who knows? Might be an original set (I don't mean for Cobra), more likely not - but at least they match
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