Color of Sidepipes

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by 01yelrt

Competition cars- some had white pipes, SC cars all had black pipes. All street cars with sidepipes had black pipes.

There's no such thing as a street car with sidepipes .

Any street car with sidepipes was done after the fact.

[PROFESSOR FATE]

Power Surge,

I'm curious about what you mean by "after the fact." I have always thought that things like side pipes, roll bars, and hood scoops were options that were available from Shelby for delivery to the original owner of the car. Are you saying that any 427 street car with side pipes had to have them installed by an owner after initial delivery, or do you just mean that the car was not shipped from England with them? If you mean the former, I wonder how you know this to be true.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by PROFESSOR FATE

Power Surge,

I'm curious about what you mean by "after the fact." I have always thought that things like side pipes, roll bars, and hood scoops were options that were available from Shelby for delivery to the original owner of the car. Are you saying that any 427 street car with side pipes had to have them installed by an owner after initial delivery, or do you just mean that the car was not shipped from England with them? If you mean the former, I wonder how you know this to be true.

Right. A street car is a street car. No side pipes, no hood scoop, no roll bar. Any street car that has those items, had them added after the car was delivered new.

[01yelrt]

The 427 SC was a for street version of the 427 competition car which was sold out of left over FIA homologation cars that were not originally intended for street use.. I believe that only 31 of these were ever built and sold. There is a difference between 427competition and 427 Semi Competition cars. The SC cars did have side pipes and hood scoops. Hope that clarifies the side pipe for street car debate.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by 01yelrt

The 427 SC was a for street version of the 427 competition car which was sold out of left over FIA homologation cars that were not originally intended for street use.. I believe that only 31 of these were ever built and sold. There is a difference between 427competition and 427 Semi Competition cars. The SC cars did have side pipes and hood scoops. Hope that clarifies the side pipe for street car debate.

S/Cs were comp cars sold for the street, with some minor changes. Street cars different than S/Cs and comp cars.

[jay bentley]

I don't know the options off hand, however in the Shelby Registry, I think there is a list of options for a 427 street car. The option list may have included a soft top, radio etc. I thought side exhaust might be on the list. I could be wrong on this.

Jay

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by jay bentley

I don't know the options off hand, however in the Shelby Registry, I think there is a list of options for a 427 street car. The option list may have included a soft top, radio etc. I thought side exhaust might be on the list. I could be wrong on this.

Jay

Actually, looking at the registry, it's the other way around. There were indications that the hood scoop and roll bar were dealer installed options, but no side exhaust.

[01yelrt]

All I know is what I've read in the Original AC Ace and Cobra restorers guide. That resource lists the SC cars as having side pipes, hood scoops, and drivers rollover bar. To quote Rinsey Mills "Both the side pipes and the roll bar should be black, not chrome." As I remember he said something to the effect- Shelby only put black pipes on these cars, other colors or chrome was done by the owners after delivery and is not correct regarding originality. The intake manifolds were I think steel rather than aluminum and the compression was lowered, as well as the carburation was changed from a twin to a single Holley. The SC cars did have the huge FIA 32 gallon fuel tank, which left very little to no trunk available.

[computerworks]

Guys...you're on a side trip....

The original question:

Can anyone verify the color of the side pipes on the S/C cars?

Side pipes on Comp and S/C came either black or white paint; the customer could specify.

BTW, The Mills book is good, but not always correct.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Right. A street car is a street car. No side pipes, no hood scoop, no roll bar. Any street car that has those items, had them added after the car was delivered new.

I just happened to see this quote while looking at this particular thread regarding side pipe colors. In the interest of stopping misinformation, the street cars had as options side pipes, oil coolers, roll bars, hood scoops, flared rear fenders and 9.5" rear wheels. How do I know, because they were all offered to me as options on my car and they were not "dealer Installed" but were installed by Shelby American at their LAX facility. PS I have a copy of the original invoice showing these as Shelby American installed options.
While I am at it, the cars were referred to as AC Cobras not Shelby Cobras by all the owners at the time that I knew, because none of us wanted anybody to think we had Shelby Mustangs.