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10-28-2006, 06:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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This particular one had what I later found out was called the light weight engine, sidepipes, a roll bar, and nothing else. No hood scoop, no coolers, no swaybars, no fans, nothing.
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Actually, what is very interesting to me is that is the way I would have ordered my street cobra if I would have had the chance to do so. The under-the-car exhaust was very inefficient. You definitely want a roll bar if you're going to have a little fun with the car.
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So, am I simply going to go to my grave never knowing how my car got that way?
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If I find the answer for you, will you "will" your car to me after you go to your grave? I'm definitely younger than you, although that doesn't mean that you'll beat me to the grave.
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"After jumping into an early lead, Miles pitted for no reason. He let the entire field go by before re-entering the race. The crowd was jumping up and down as he stunned the Chevrolet drivers by easily passing the entire field to finish second behind MacDonald's other team Cobra. The Corvette people were completely demoralized."
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10-28-2006, 09:20 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Early 427 car
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10-28-2006, 02:39 PM
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Anthony,
Yes, it has aluminum medium riser heads. Also an aluminum water pump and an aluminum harmonic balancer. With regard to my will, if my son ever learns to drive a stick, the car will go to him. But, if he doesn't want it, your next in line.
Byots,
I agree with your philosophy, it shouldn't make much difference who put Shelby's parts on Shelby's cars, as long as it was done properly. I suppose the effect on market value lurks in the back of my mind somewhere, but since I'm not going to sell it, why should I care. As to finding the original owner, if Ned has any info on csx 3316, I'd love to have it, but the Registry indicates that I am the only known owner. Speaking of the Registry, is the info in that thing pretty much Gospel? It says that the car was invoiced to a dealer in Arizona, but everything I know about the car indicates it spent its life in California. Even the "427 Chassis Manual" that came with the car had Vels Ford penciled on the first page. Vels was a Ford dealer in Calif. located very near Shelby's facilities in El Segundo.
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10-28-2006, 03:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by PROFESSOR FATE
Anthony,
Yes, it has aluminum medium riser heads. Also an aluminum water pump and an aluminum harmonic balancer. With regard to my will, if my son ever learns to drive a stick, the car will go to him. But, if he doesn't want it, your next in line.
Byots,
I agree with your philosophy, it shouldn't make much difference who put Shelby's parts on Shelby's cars, as long as it was done properly. I suppose the effect on market value lurks in the back of my mind somewhere, but since I'm not going to sell it, why should I care. As to finding the original owner, if Ned has any info on csx 3316, I'd love to have it, but the Registry indicates that I am the only known owner. Speaking of the Registry, is the info in that thing pretty much Gospel? It says that the car was invoiced to a dealer in Arizona, but everything I know about the car indicates it spent its life in California. Even the "427 Chassis Manual" that came with the car had Vels Ford penciled on the first page. Vels was a Ford dealer in Calif. located very near Shelby's facilities in El Segundo.
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Dan, the registry is just a written collection of what is known and what is not. Since the last printing was 10 years ago, they very well could have new info on your car, or new info that would show a mistake in the last entry. All you can do is ask.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-28-2006, 03:43 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Early 427 car
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10-28-2006, 03:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Ex CSX3327, & AK7113 AutoKraft AC MK IV
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factory options
What is the real question here? Is it the increasing number of S/C's versus the facory records and history of owners?
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10-28-2006, 04:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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What is the real question here? Is it the increasing number of S/C's versus the facory records and history of owners?
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No. It's known what cars were S/Cs and which were not. The question is what options could have been ordered on a street car, and which were done after delivery.
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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10-28-2006, 04:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Early 427 car
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10-28-2006, 09:18 PM
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Byots,
Unfortunately, it had Sunbursts. The Blue Dots were still on the front, and were in good shape. Of course there was one in the trunk too. But, the rears had been replaced with something a little larger. I don't remember what size they were, though. I do remember that they were nearly bald. So the first owners of the car went through at least to sets of rear tires in 8000 miles.
This reminds me of another thread I need to start. When the rear tires finally needed to be replaced, I bought two 9.5 inch magnesium Halibrands from Shelby. At the time I thought they were SC wheels, but they were not. The backspacing at 3.375 inches was just about perfect for the 12.30-15 Goodyears the I mounted on them. I'll have to start a new thread with a picture of the things, and let the Club members have a whack at identifying them. I'd give a significant part of my body to get my hands on a set of matching fronts.
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