SBF 289/302 Weber CROSSRAM! Is it true?

[Sizzler]

Originally Posted by DavidNJ

Two questions:

1. Who makes the 351C manifold? Do they have a website?

2. Why not use a TrickFlow R or other big chamber on a TrickFlow or other port injection base if you are going to use a single TB?

I did not know Mickey Thompson made such a crossram for the 289, much less that is was for 58mm webers. About time that little piece of information made it to my synapses. I've seen that setup before and always assumed it was two of these adapters on a 2x4 intake


1) As for the 351C crossram, I can only point you towards
Australian Muscle Parts
Australian phone number - 011-613-59402337
California Distribution phone number - 562-428-9764

Don't know if they're still in business or if that version is still produced. A lot of stuff sticks around on the web long after it's gone in real life. It IS for a 351C though.

2) Use whatever you want. It all depends on YOUR engine combination and projected usage. I've personally always liked the BXR, just for looks. It does need either DIS or a front drive distributor. Reading the comment above about the Ford EDIS, I am apparently seriously behind the times, because I did not know the EDIS was controllable by any other ECM other than Ford's own EECxx boxes.

As for injected crossrams. It's all a big moot point nowadays as even the factory 5.0 injection manifolds are basically crossrams; they have the long runners and deal with transition with injectors mounted at the ports. They're taller than the cleveland and mocked up windsor versions, and that's for the reasons already mentioned: valve cover clearance and simple access to injectors mounted at the ports instead of on top of the runners.

But the mock up is for a DCOE crossram, and it's about time.

[quickjack]

Hmmm, can you say crank trigger?

[Mike Simard]

Originally Posted by quickjack

Hmmm, can you say crank trigger?

Indeed. If you're using EFI it's simple to add one since you already have an ECU that could surely control spark as well. I use a Ford EDIS distributorless system, it's a blessing to gearheads in that it's a standalone system that handles dwell. It outputs a signal that most aftermarket ECUs can recieve, the ECU then handles timing and sends a signal to the EDIS. Of course most ECU's can send a signal directly to coils, the nice thing about EDIS is that it handles the dwell control and is a robust part.

[Michael4yah]

Anyone know where I can find a set of original 58s or hi rise manifolds?

[Michael4yah]

58s........ anyone know where I can find some original 58 IDA Webers?

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I've been checking ebay but haven't seen anything. They seem to be a scarce vintage item

[Badger]

with the right chokes to increase low RPM velocity you may be able to get these 58s to work on the street. Good luck...that's a rare set up. Nice! Badger

[Aussie Mike]

Mando is running a crank trigger on his 347 so no distributor needed. I believe the morrison setup goes for about AU$7000 which is around $5K US.

I've found a couple of alternative manufacturers down here that are a fair bit cheaper. Hocking Racing Shop sell a kit for about AU$3500 that looks pretty good.

Katicore do a range of setups at reasonable prices. Ive seen their work first hand and it looks good. I bought some fuel rail extrusion from them to make my own fuel rails.

Harrop engineering also make a couple but the Ford one is a V8 Supercars masterpiece and has a $14000 price tag.



Cheers

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You can't show porn here!!!

[Rick Parker]

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No OHC's here! 255 cu in & 58mm Webers

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Originally Posted by Rick Parker

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No OHC's here! 255 cu in & 58mm Webers

Awsome pic, Rick!

[Michael4yah]

Like I said ,ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND SOME ORIGINAL 58's? Email Michael4yah@msn.com

[Full Throttle Al]

You are very unlikey to ever come across a set of Weber 58's, they are rare as Hen's Teeth, maybe more so. Plus, no parts are available. Go with the Gene Berg 58, an updated carb, brand new:



Weber 48 on Left, Berg 58 on Right.

Alan Sorkey
CSX4083
The Cammer Cobra