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Old 05-14-2020, 01:28 PM
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For those that do vote with their feet and move, remember why you did what you did. Your old state whether CA, MI, NY, CT, MA, NJ, IL or any other profligate entitlement spending Blue state will eventually find themselves out of tax dollars and in a position essentially petitioning for federal tax dollars to "balance" their budget deficits. It is happening at the Federal level right now with the current proposed phase 3 pandemic relief bill. All the usual suspects have their hands out trying to dump the price of their liberal largesse on our door step. There is absolutely no reason the other fiscally responsible states should underwrite the Blue nanny states deficit entitlement spending proclivities.

If a state wants to spend tax dollars like a drunken sailor (apologies to the Navy vets, I'm using the figurative saying, no bad on you guys) then you get to enjoy the hangover and headache the next morning. Don't want the pain? Then cut back the nanny state entitlements!

There is no free money! We always end up having to pay it back.


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For those that do vote with their feet and move, remember why you did what you did. Your old state whether CA, MI, NY, CT, MA, NJ, IL or any other profligate entitlement spending Blue state will eventually find themselves out of tax dollars and in a position essentially petitioning for federal tax dollars to "balance" their budget deficits. It is happening at the Federal level right now with the current proposed phase 3 pandemic relief bill. All the usual suspects have their hands out trying to dump the price of their liberal largesse on our door step. There is absolutely no reason the other fiscally responsible states should underwrite the Blue nanny states deficit entitlement spending proclivities.

If a state wants to spend tax dollars like a drunken sailor (apologies to the Navy vets, I'm using the figurative saying, no bad on you guys) then you get to enjoy the hangover and headache the nest morning. Don't want the pain? Then cut back the nanny state entitlements!

There is no free money! We always end up having to pay it back.


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What you say is correct about the industrial states and east coast. New Yorkers that leave for Florida by and large leave Florida like it was (although that seems to be changing.) California exiles are the worst. They complain and whine about how bad the situation in CA is, and then move to Las Vegas and Phoenix and then make those places into little Californias.
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What you say is correct about the industrial states and east coast. New Yorkers that leave for Florida by and large leave Florida like it was (although that seems to be changing.) California exiles are the worst. They complain and whine about how bad the situation in CA is, and then move to Las Vegas and Phoenix and then make those places into little Californias.

You're so right, Tony!

The CA expatriates go to good healthy states and attempt to restart the California insanity one more time. A significant number of them are modern day Trojan Horses.


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For those that do vote with their feet and move, remember why you did what you did. Your old state whether CA, MI, NY, CT, MA, NJ, IL or any other profligate entitlement spending Blue state will eventually find themselves out of tax dollars and in a position essentially petitioning for federal tax dollars to "balance" their budget deficits. It is happening at the Federal level right now with the current proposed phase 3 pandemic relief bill. All the usual suspects have their hands out trying to dump the price of their liberal largesse on our door step. There is absolutely no reason the other fiscally responsible states should underwrite the Blue nanny states deficit entitlement spending proclivities.

If a state wants to spend tax dollars like a drunken sailor (apologies to the Navy vets, I'm using the figurative saying, no bad on you guys) then you get to enjoy the hangover and headache the next morning. Don't want the pain? Then cut back the nanny state entitlements!

There is no free money! We always end up having to pay it back.


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Your whole argument is moot. Most of the states you are complaining about have paid more in federal taxes for years over what they received, including the state where I live. NY paid $22 billion more in 2018 than they received. Now they are asking for some money, and are getting called out. How about Kentucky that gets $148 billion more in taxes than they pay and they have their hand out wanting more?

If you are going to post political crap, at least make sure it is correct.
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Your whole argument is moot. Most of the states you are complaining about have paid more in federal taxes for years over what they received, including the state where I live. NY paid $22 billion more in 2018 than they received. Now they are asking for some money, and are getting called out. How about Kentucky that gets $148 billion more in taxes than they pay and they have their hand out wanting more?

If you are going to post political crap, at least make sure it is correct.
We are of a different opinion and while you are entitled to your opinion you are not entitled to your own facts and that does not change the fact I do not agree with your confused (if I am polite) view. For the record you are conflating a State's internal entitlement largesse and it's associated costs with federal taxes paid by the residents. Federal tax and State spending are not even remotely related.

The election to grant all manner of entitlement programs is an election made by voters in individual states. To attempt to get voters in other states to pay for your spending largesse is reprehensible. If you choose to spend like a drunken sailor that is your right. When it comes time to pay the piper, do not look at other states to underwrite that largesse. You bought it, you own it and most importantly you need to pay for it.

If you do not want to pay for your largesse cut back your bleeding heart entitlement programs. It's that simple! Don't come with your hand out asking for someone else's monies to pay for your budget excesses — you will find no sympathy from most other taxpayers, at all.


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