NJ Registration question

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Cashburn

Titled as year built. Emissions standards by year of block.

I'll second this one.

[NJBIGBLOCK]

I have the NJ DMV information and it says and i quote" Reconstructed motor vehicles equipped with a NEW engine and Chassis will be treated as a new motor vehicle and must comply with all emission requirements applicable to the model year in which the vehicle is initially titled. My Translation: If the car is new and the engine is new you have to pass current regulations in the year you title the vehicle.
QUOTE:
Reconstructed motor vehicles equipted with a USED or OLDER model engines shall comply with all emission requirements applicable to the model year of the engine. DOCUMENTATION FROM THE MANUFACTURER OF THE ENGINE OR A DEALER AUTHORIZED BY THE MANUFACTURER WILL BE NECESSARY TO ESTABLISH PROOF OF THE YEAR OF THE ENGINE.
What I had origionally asked was weather or not they used the cast date code such as D0VE for a 1970 ford block or if they use the numbers STAMPED INTO THE BLOCK which I am told correspond to the year of the vehicle the engine was put into. If anyone knows the answer to this I would appreciate it. Much thanks to all for helping out.

[Sal Gerace]

Ford engines do not have the vin number on the block just the part number and also a date stamp. Part number would be the Dove marking that you mentioned. There is also a date stamp found under the oil filter block plate. It will read something like "6A21". Translated January the 21st 1966. It sounds like they want proof of the translation through the manufacturer. My engine builder has it all broken down on the paperwork of the engine he sent so maybe the DMV will accept that. Otherwise maybe a Ford manual from that period? I would like to hear from the others who have done this to see what they experienced also!

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by NJBIGBLOCK

What I had origionally asked was weather or not they used the cast date code such as D0VE for a 1970 ford block or if they use the numbers STAMPED INTO THE BLOCK which I am told correspond to the year of the vehicle the engine was put into. If anyone knows the answer to this I would appreciate it. Much thanks to all for helping out.

The NJ DMV will check the casting number of the block to determine the year the block is supposed to emulate. If the Dove block is cast with "C5AE-D" (1965) then the NJ DMV will treat it as a 1965 "vintage" block and your emissions will be based on the 1965 standards (simple pvc in one valve cover into the back of your carb base). If the Dove block has a modern casting of F0AE (1990), then the 90's emissions standards will apply (full closed loop emissions control with catalytic converters required). Either way, there will be no VIN stamping in the block for the NJ DMV inspectors to see. Of course most of them already know that Ford did not stamp a VIN or even a partial VIN in to every block/engine back in the 60-70's. Only the HiPo engines had a partial VIN stamped into them during that time period. It is widely known that Ford did not start stamping engine blocks with partial VIN numbers on a wholesale fashion until the mid 80's.


Can't answer your question any simpler than that.

So what does the casting number on the block you have say?


Bill S.

[NJBIGBLOCK]

I have no engine block as of now. I want to use a pre emission's year block and I wanted to be certain of what I needed before I purchased an engine to build. I want to use a 385 series engine (460) My plan was to get one from an old lincoln and I wanted to be sure of how they are date coded. I am told that their are 2 date codes , one on the side of the block , and another in the lifter valley. According to books I have read ,the one in the lifter galley tells month day and year of the block. The one on the side just states decade and year built. If this is good enough for the inspectors I have no problem but I would rather ask people on this forum with more experience at this than me so that I don't end up building a block I can't use.Does anyone know where I can find a ford date code translation for the 385 series engines? Thanks to all.