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joey_hv · #1 (**permalink**) 01-02-2007, 01:41 PM

not from california...what's all the excitement about?

MFE III · #2 (**permalink**) 01-02-2007, 01:55 PM

Got mine . . #293 at about 10:00 am. Were a total of about 7 of us, first one arrived before 5:00 the rest of us between 6:00 and 7:00. We all got 'em.
Gotta admit it was getting a little stressfull after a full hour and a half of straight dialing by one of the DMV clerks and couldn't get through. Now it's time to get rockin on the build!!
Matt

jdog · #3 (**permalink**) 01-02-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by joey_hv

not from california...what's all the excitement about?

Smog regulations have made it a bear to get a Cobra registered here in Cali. A few years ago a Ca state legislator (& fellow Cobra enthusiast) wrote & got a bill passed, SB100.

SB100 makes provisions for DMV to issue 500ea (annually) SB100#'s that allow the vehicle owner to choose the year for smog purposes. Cobras are 1965 model year, so no smog check, FOREVER!

Specially Constructed Vehicles- Emission Control

Without one of these magik numbers, you can still try to get one registered, but it gets a lot harder. SB100 is the easy way here in Cali.

jdog
P.S. I should have added: They are issued first come first served every Jan. They didn't last one day in 2006, & by the looks of things, I'll bet they won't last one day this year! So it's get'em while you can!

PatBuckley · #4 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joey_hv

not from california...what's all the excitement about?

Do a search - that way you can show everyone that you aren't stupid!

pgermond · #5 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PatBuckley

Do a search - that way you can show everyone that you aren't stupid!

Pat - I thought about it, but knew we could count on you to get him straight

Happy New Year

PatBuckley · #6 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 08:30 PM

LOL - The new Pat is a kinder gentler guy but being as SB100 is one of the most posted about things (especially around this time of year) I just could not resist.

Happy New Year to you as well, buddy.

joey_hv · #7 (**permalink**) 01-02-2007, 02:57 PM

oh, cool, well congratulations to all you early birds!

NorCal Cobra · #8 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 03:47 PM

Got mine #130 !!!!! Got to the Folsom office at 4:00 AM and was 2nd in line. Received #130 at 8:20AM. There were 8-9 nine in line at opening. I'm not sure if they all got their #'s (probably not).

Folsom DMV did a great job, very knowledgable of SB100 procedures.

Western States Bash here I come!!!!!!!!!!!!

captnken · #9 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 05:23 PM

I called DMV to make a SB100 BAR appt. They told me that I need to receive the letter prior to making the appt. They also get a copy of the letter. They compare information and then proceed to schedule the appointment. Anyone have any different results?

OPNYDR · #10 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:09 PM

For those of you that suffered through the process with no avail, I may have a solution!!!!! A friend of mine may very well have an extra one.

Check this Ebay listing;

eBay Motors: SPCNS SB100 number, Factory Five Superformance Kirkham (item 130065471352 end time Jan-13-07 18:44:24 PST)

Cashburn · #11 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OPNYDR

For those of you that suffered through the process with no avail, I may have a solution!!!!! A friend of mine may very well have an extra one.

Check this Ebay listing;

eBay Motors: SPCNS SB100 number, Factory Five Superformance Kirkham (item 130065471352 end time Jan-13-07 18:44:24 PST)

This is terrible and I hope someone puts a stop to it. Will only increase the pain of the process if it is allowed to transpire. Shame on you...

jdog · #12 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 07:53 PM

It's sh*t like this that will bring an end to the program!

There have already been a couple of runs made, trying to end it. Armed with this kind of ammo the tree-huggers will make short work of it.

Where's Morgester when you need him?

jdog

pgermond · #13 (**permalink**) 01-03-2007, 08:33 PM

This is bogus........ a complete joke. Anyone who knows the process knows this won't fly, and anyone who bids on this deserves what they get - nothing! (check the sellers previous items - DENTAL LAB RUBBER OCCLUSION WAX FORMER, CLASSIC DENTAL SKULL ANATOMICAL MODEL MEDICAL SURGICAL, DENTAL SPIRIT LAMP / ALCOHAL BURNER (GERMAN STEEL) NEW ).

Give me a frigg'in break - who would fall for this????????????

OPNYDR - post this crap somewhere else!

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Originally Posted by OPNYDR

For those of you that suffered through the process with no avail, I may have a solution!!!!! A friend of mine may very well have an extra one.

Check this Ebay listing;

eBay Motors: SPCNS SB100 number, Factory Five Superformance Kirkham (item 130065471352 end time Jan-13-07 18:44:24 PST)

Dinobyte · #14 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 09:08 AM

I just reported this to Ebay so hopefully they will pull the add.

Hray · #15 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 09:41 AM

I almost hate to ask this question, I think I know the answer but must ask.

situation: Building a homade car, installing a 1965 motor and trans. in this case the regular spcns process is fine since the bar will rule smog not required on that year motor.

or if installing any motor newer than 1975 then the sb100 is nearly a must unless you want to make the car totally smog legal to the year of the motor and want to smog the car every two years.

I think all other steps involved are nearly the same except having to camp out at dmv on jan 2. You still have to get a vin number assigned, get BAR to sign off, and prove you are not building it with stolen parts.

I tried to keep it brief here, what am I missing. The above was explained to me by a dmv supervisor in december and she had the openness to say, "just do the regular spcns process, then after getting title and registration upgrade your motor to any year you want because we have no way of knowing it and we know most everyone does it this way".

I also think the sb100 number would give me the option to tell the BAR referee to apply smog standards to either the year appearance of the body, or the year of the motor. So do not plan on building a kit prowler unless you put in a pre-smog motor.

One reason for asking is I have access to molds for 29 ford roadsters and plan on building a few of them. I did get my sequence number for my cobra this year, but I almost feel guilty since I plan on installing a pre-smog motor that number could have went to someone that really needed one.
Does anyone here have info to correct my understanding or just tell me I am not being selfish

Hray.

ksmiff · #16 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 10:54 AM

I went the non sb100 route for my first attempt. Used a C3AE block which was declared by the smog ref to be out of a 1963 galaxy. All I had to do was make the car pass 1963 smog requirements. Sealed breather system and PCV. No problem. Then came the trouble. You still have to meet the smog sniffer for that year motor. Timing for that motor was to be set to 5 deg BTDC and idle set to 500 rpm. No way I could pass the sniffer. Hell, I could barely keep it running with the cam I am using at that low of an rpm. Jetted as far down as I could go and just could'nt get it. My last resort if I did not get the SB100 title was to change my cam back to the stock version to pass the sniffer. I would have to change the cam back every two years to pass smog. Luckily I got the Sb100.

Another thing I learned; If you are using a ford FE motor and are not going to go the SB100 route, use a C4AE or older block. The C5AE was used up till 1972 in pick-ups. A not so pleasant Smog Ref will know this and make you comply with 1972 smog specs. In other words tons of smog equipment. I was told they are supposed to go with the last year that motor was used in.

ROUSHAC · #17 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinobyte

I just reported this to Ebay so hopefully they will pull the add.

Now listed as bidding has ended and 0 bids.

I guess the famous con-man Joseph ("Paper Collar" Joe) Bessimer was wrong when he said "There's a sucker born every minute...and two to take 'em."

Randy Rosenberg · #18 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007, 01:32 PM

Hray,

You're almost 100% correct. For an SPCNS you have two smog requirement choices:

1. Smog by year of block or year of build - The vehicle must meet visual requirements and pass the snif test, upon initial title and during the every biannual smog test. Since the vehicle does not have a model year of 1975 or old, it is not exempt from biannual smog testing.

2. SB100 - Smog exempt forever.

Hope this helps,
Randy R...

Hray · #19 (**permalink**) 01-05-2007, 11:49 AM

Thanks everyone: I guess I really did need that sb100.

and I guess I better count my lucky stars, 4 years ago I bought a spcns 1931 ford phaeton, titled as a 1974 spcns since that was when it was first title. Upon purchase I never had to smog it and have not since, maybe they grandfathered in the spcns titled prior to some specific date.

HRay

dlang14 · #20 (**permalink**) 01-05-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hray

Thanks everyone: I guess I really did need that sb100.

and I guess I better count my lucky stars, 4 years ago I bought a spcns 1931 ford phaeton, titled as a 1974 spcns since that was when it was first title. Upon purchase I never had to smog it and have not since, maybe they grandfathered in the spcns titled prior to some specific date.

HRay

I may be off here but isnt a '74 anything smog exempt? I thought I'd heard something about 30 years old becomes exempt? I might be off base, but that may be the source of disagreement.

Daryl