Shelby CSX 4000 Registration Nightmares

[mr bruce]

The fact is ,it's not a 1965. As a rule ,it is best to title cars by the rules/regulations of the state you are in. Although we pay for the roads we are not in charge of them. Maybe the beaurocrats think you were washing a title.

[427sharpe]

"The fact is ,it's not a 1965."

There is the crux of the debate! Different states determine the year of a title on a kitcar different ways. Some say it is by year of origin (when you bought it and got an MSO), some say by year of completion (first inspection) and some say by year of motor. Fla was the latter when I lived there. Regardless of when you bought or completed your car, if it received a 1965 sideoiler, it was a 1965. I do not see how Virginia can override a legal title from another state like this. I DO however see Shelby Auto's concern about bogus titles showing up with Shelby's name on them. In this case, I cannot see how VA can legally rescind a Fla title that is and was always legitimate. If this can happen there will be a backwash of title challenges whenever some idiot in any DMV wants to cause a stir.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by mr bruce

The fact is ,it's not a 1965. As a rule ,it is best to title cars by the rules/regulations of the state you are in. Although we pay for the roads we are not in charge of them. Maybe the beaurocrats think you were washing a title.

It's a much grayer area with a CSX4000 car, than it is with a replica Cobra. Usually with Cobras, the DMV is looking to correct incorrect or illigitimate VINs, incorrect years, and incorrect or missing parts (as far as "year based" safety and emmisions goes). Being that it's a Shelby automobile, they can't dispute the VIN. And it varies greatly state by state, as far as what equipment the vehicle must have. Most states want to title car as the year it was built, but then they also want the car to meet the standards of that same year. And we all know that's pretty much impossible. These cars are copies of a car built in the 60s, they naturally will not meet any modern standards. As far as the year goes, in the case of the CSX4000 cars, the MSO from the manufacturer SPECIFICALLY states the model year as 1965.

So you have the original manufacturer saying the car is a 1965, but we all know it wasn't built in 1965. On the flip side, we also know the car doesn't come close to meeting the new vehicle standards of the year it was actually built.

[427sharpe]

Sal, remember that Shelby had all those FRAMES and PARTS lying around from 1965...
I think what kicked this into a tizzy was Shelby or Cobra in the title. My car carries a 1965 plate but is a "Ford" "2 door" on the title. And yes, it was all done legally many years ago.