Update on CA: SPCN Registration

[thudmaster]

I am now thinking of giving my brand new cobra to my sister in Texas. She can registar it then give it back to me.

[Randy Rosenberg]

Originally Posted by thudmaster

I am now thinking of giving my brand new cobra to my sister in Texas. She can registar it then give it back to me.

Why not? Here's what I wrote in another thread on this very same topic:

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...644#post793644

Originally Posted by Randy Rosenberg

This is one facet, and maybe someday the DMV will "get back to" Morgester on this.

The twist is that if I build a Cobra in CA, then CA will want me to title it as SPCN and get an SB100 Sequence number, 'cause my motor is not 2007 smog compliant. So, why should I not have my cousin in Kansas or Ill or AZ title it for me in their state as a "1965 Cobra/Ford/Superformance/whatever", then sell me my car back, so I can title in CA as a "1965 Cobra/Ford/Superformance/whatever"? This way, I don't have to worry about getting one of 500 Sequence Numbers, and I'll be smog exempt forever. Sure I will have to pay taxes at the DMV - I'm not trying to avoid my tax responsibility.

Some might call this "title washing", but the paper trail is the same, as if I bought an out-of-state car...right?

How about if I just set up a small INC or LLC in Nevada or buy a vacation home, title my Cobra there as an 1965 Cobra, then transfer the title to my home on CA???

By accepting the "1965" title from another state, it opens a large number of legal ways to get around the SPCN/SB100 circus, and this is probably why the DMV has not "gotten back" to Morgester on this.

In a nutshell, this is exactly the service the TU was providing, which is why it was not uncommon to use an out-of-state titling service to acquire a "smog exempt" 1965 title for a Cobra replica.

There is a growing list of Replica Friendly states with Replica Friendly legislation and processes/procedures. All of these were modeled and lobbied by SEMA - check them out: http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=61687

- Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Introduced in Michigan; Committee Hearing Scheduled for Dec. 4
- Florida Governor Signs SEMA Street-Rod/Custom Vehicle Bill Into Law - July 2007
- Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Introduced in New York - March 2007
- Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Approved by Arkansas Legislature; Moves to Governor for Signature - March 2007
- Virginia Pro-Hobbyist Replica Bills Pass Legislature; Moves to Governor for Signature - February 2007
- Colorado Pro-Hobbyist Kit Car Bill Signed into Law - June 2006
- Montana Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Signed Into Law - April 2005
- Arizona Emissions Test Exemption for Collectible Vehicles Signed Into Law by Governor - April 2005
- Rhode Island, Missouri Become Second and Third States to Enact SEMA Street Rod/Custom Vehicle Registration Bill - August 2004
- Hawaii Street Rod/Replica Bill Signed Into Law - June 2004
- Missouri Enacts SEMA Street Rod/Custom Vehicle Bill - July 2004
- Illinois Enacts SEMA Street Rod/Custom Vehicle Registration Bill - 2002

[Woodz428]

Actually, there is considerable difference, as I understand it, between a legitimate titling process and one done in an effort to avoid claiming the actual $$ value of a vehicle. I will avoid comment on the taxing of vehicles, however the process I mentioned is a legal State operation and statute that requires presenting receipts for the components and labor for which you are taxed. The TU issue as I recall were vehicles being registered as a 1965 Ford, using a vin from a '65 Ford, to avoid declaring the "market" value. Just that process probably violates Federal law. I say this as someone that used TU 30 years ago when they supplied titles for vehicles that really existed but that titles had been lost, at the time there were few options. When they began the other procedures, I have no idea. But they were typically supplying titles, as a private enterprise, to persons out of state. This is a completely different process than going to you state DMV and filing all the paper work and paying the taxes as they are. There is now focus on the emmissions testing aspect. That , I don't believe was the initial trigger, it was the loss of precious $$ the state felt like they were entitled to. Gee, I love that word "entitled"