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05-05-2011, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: McConnellsburg,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2124
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05-05-2011, 07:40 AM
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Dunstable, Bedfordshire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Dreaming of a 427 Competition car...
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Hmmmm. The FF5 Mk 4 really does look much better than previous versions to me. I might sit down later and compare it with some pictures of originals for my own edification.
Interestng thread!
Paul 
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05-05-2011, 08:08 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
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Duane:
Quick search over on ffcars.com revealed the following threads...plenty of pics here of the improvements of the Mk4 (the one that Mr_Bruce is offering you) over the Mk3 FFR body.
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Thanks Allen. The links and photos are helpful. Looking at the photos, I can immediately see what has changed and some things that have not. Aside from changing of the mounting points which our local body guy has been doing for years, on the new body you can see they worked to round the rear quarters a bit, dropped the tail height, but for some reason did not extend the rear section of the body to hand down a bit further and some of same issues on the door still exist if you look at what that guy had to do to full in areas on the body and doors to get it to line up reasonably. I'm not saying fiberglass bodies should be perfect, but as many cars/bodies that have been built and the time to redo the molds over and over, I can definitely see why ERA spent over a year or more alone on the new slabside body to try and nail it. Maybe I just need to look at something other than Cobras any more. Here is a door photo from that MK4 link / thread you sent that shows even after some work many of the same problems on the doors and body we saw on the M3, all still there. Hmmm. Definitely looks better but I see multiple things I would still want to change immediately; for example, I could see wanting to cut off both quarter panels right down the top-center spacing it out and adding about .75 to 1.0" inch width. For some reason, being super critical of shape, the body still looks like a hybrid cross of a 289/427 shape to me in the rear. Getting closer, but seems like a new speed racer Mk5 version is in order. Thanks for forwarding, very helpful to many I'm sure.
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05-05-2011, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: McConnellsburg,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2124
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No problem, Duane. Glad to contribute.
Wow...that condition above is with the best-fit door alignment??!! Holy crow!.
- Allen.
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05-05-2011, 08:32 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sacramento,Ca.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates (2001)
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Duane....you are more than welcome to come and take a look at my Midstates body....
give me a call and you can stop by anytime....
i'm a block west of the Jimboys Tacos on Fulton ave.
Bob 402-270-3484....
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05-05-2011, 08:45 AM
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Location: penn.,
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i'll "fix" that F5 body any way you want, just write a check.
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05-05-2011, 08:52 AM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
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Originally Posted by mr bruce
i'll "fix" that F5 body any way you want, just write a check.
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Mr. Bruce,
For starters, can you cut off the entire MK4 at 3/4s clip and replace it with an ERA 427 SC flared clip right in front of the doors? 
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Western States Cobra Group 1998-2016.
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05-05-2011, 08:56 AM
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how about a whole bootleg ErA body? there is a set of molds out there floating around.
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05-05-2011, 11:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Folsom,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 623, 427 S/C Cobra. Ford FE 428 Cobra Jet, Ford Nascar TL 4speed - with a touch of raw; "less is more" theme
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RustyBob,
If you come to one of the local Norcal breakfast meetings or with us down to Sonoma on the 21st of this month - please let me know and we'll go from there. Midstates was one of the first cars I looked at way back before I got my first Unique. I always enjoyed the history of the company and reading customer comments including the original founder's passion for his cars and his customers. Thx.
Mr. B,
I heard something similar to this about five years ago, and even a few references from folks who claim the maker of their particular un-named cars/bodies originated from said molds. However, but nothing I could quite put my finger on that led me to believe it was 100% true. If there was a pre-existing mock up body just sitting somewhere to do some experimentation, there may be some interest to see what could actually be done to cross-adapt it and to validate some ideas or assumptions. Thx.
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Western States Cobra Group 1998-2016.
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