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01-02-2012, 11:16 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by Cobrafan1
check out Gessford, project 10, csx1021. If you look at the bare body, the rear flares seem normal (427s/c or comp), but after its painted the appear more blended. Maybe its me?? I've also seem other pics of CSX1000 cars where the rear flares seem more subdued. Personally I like the wide rear fender lips (flares).
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For those of us who get easily lost looking for what you are talking about... CSX1021 Shelby American |
01-02-2012, 08:51 AM
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Kirkham did a mirror image of one side of their original Cobra to make the car symmetrical. I’ve looked at lots of original ones and the sides are different on all.
I love the lines and look of the Kirkham.
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01-02-2012, 09:49 AM
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I do love the fact that the Kirkhams are symmetrical as well. Was just trying to find out the OTHER styling differences between the two. Again they are very subtle....
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01-02-2012, 11:51 AM
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1ntCobra, this is exactly the one I'm talking about. The radiator opening looks slightly more rounded, particularly on the bottom. I feel they captured the look just a little better than the Kirkham. This is not at all to imply that the Kirkham is "off" or wrong. I just like it better. Likewise the rear fender flares seem a little more pronounced on the Kirkham. Then again, maybe when they painted csx1021, they used a little to much bondo in the transition from the lip to the fender???
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01-02-2012, 12:03 PM
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Having seen a 1000 next to my own Kirkham...the flares are basically the same...the 1000 was in a file finish vs my brushed, so the light shone on them a bit differently. And I think it's the same tricks light plays that makes you think the linked 1000's flares look a little different after its painted. Jorge (aka George) ain't no photographer.
To me, the easiest difference to see between the 1000 and the KMP is the along the top rear fender from profile and the rear...a bit rounder for the 1000. There are other, extremely minor details.
Forgetting any discussion about which is better, etc., another line of thought process for you might be along the lines of which will make you happier as a Cobra owner. Personally, I want the same guys who built the thing to be within reach (alright...within reach of a longassed arm) if I need dings taken out, etc. Provo's not around the corner, but it's not a boat ride away either.
You've been around here long enough (2002) to know everyone else in the arruminum business has come and gone except two...McCluskey and the Kirkhams.
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01-02-2012, 12:15 PM
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The car shown in the paint booth (in prime) on George's site appears not to be the same car you have seen bare in other pictures.  |
01-02-2012, 12:30 PM
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So you're basically saying that the 1000s are like Yugos...they look different based on the amount of ouzo in the hammer man's bloodstream?
CobraFan1...given your curiosity about the differences in Cobra bodies, maybe you'll indulge a bit of my own...
You've been here since 2002...are you buying one, or just sittin there enjoying the discussion?
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01-02-2012, 01:05 PM
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Jamo, to indulge you as you say, its both. I'm seriously considering one. Yes I've been a member since 2002. I'm finally in a position both personally and professional where I can. Lets say its been a childhood dream. Is it ok to ask these questions?
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01-02-2012, 02:52 PM
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Jamo, to indulge you as you say, its both. I'm seriously considering one. Yes I've been a member since 2002. I'm finally in a position both personally and professional where I can. Lets say its been a childhood dream. Is it ok to ask these questions?
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Good for you for getting in a position to buy what you want!
At this point I figure that Ron and Jamo just figure I'm just here for conversion.
I have had to reconsider all of my priorities with my divorce last year. The important thing is that I have my kids to take care of. I've got a financial mess to get myself out of, but at least now I have complete control over my finances again. Who knows, there may still be some sort of Cobra in my future. 
Actually I'm going to drive a Backdraft this spring (but only for an hour) 1 Hour Cobra Replica Rental - Groupon Offer - Pennsauken, New Jersey - $99 |
01-03-2012, 03:54 AM
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Good for you for getting in a position to buy what you want!
At this point I figure that Ron and Jamo just figure I'm just here for conversion.
I have had to reconsider all of my priorities with my divorce last year. The important thing is that I have my kids to take care of. I've got a financial mess to get myself out of, but at least now I have complete control over my finances again. Who knows, there may still be some sort of Cobra in my future.
Actually I'm going to drive a Backdraft this spring (but only for an hour) 1 Hour Cobra Replica Rental - Groupon Offer - Pennsauken, New Jersey - $99 |
Maybe I missed something, but I'm at a loss in understanding why you think that. I presume "conversion" was meant to be "conversation" but in any event, my comments are directed only at CobraFan1's questions.
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01-03-2012, 09:23 AM
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Maybe I missed something, but I'm at a loss in understanding why you think that. I presume "conversion" was meant to be "conversation" but in any event, my comments are directed only at CobraFan1's questions.
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Yes I meant "conversation". Perhaps I should avoid posting while under the influence of cough and cold medication.
And I realize your comment was not directed at me, but I have also been around for years and haven't acquired a Cobra replica either... |
01-03-2012, 04:57 PM
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Yes I meant "conversation". Perhaps I should avoid posting while under the influence of cough and cold medication.
And I realize your comment was not directed at me, but I have also been around for years and haven't acquired a Cobra replica either... |
Nothing to do with whether someone has one or not. I know you've researched the heck out them for years with the intent of taking the plunge at some point from our time here together, and your responses in this thread show it.
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01-03-2012, 12:54 PM
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Sorry, picky is good, Jack did own 3020. Just have 21 on the brain yesterday. Typo............ Ooops  |
01-03-2012, 03:47 AM
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Jamo, to indulge you as you say, its both. I'm seriously considering one. Yes I've been a member since 2002. I'm finally in a position both personally and professional where I can. Lets say its been a childhood dream. Is it ok to ask these questions?
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Why not...just because of my inquiry? Some folks may answer differently or offer suggestions knowing you may be buying one...one of the reasons I pointed out the availability of the Kirkhams to fix what they make. Good luck on your search.
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01-02-2012, 01:58 PM
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Cobra comparison
Pictures of AC Cobra, and Shelby Cobra, both full comp. cars finished as close to the same way as possible. From SAAC 35.
SAAC 35 - a set on Flickr |
01-02-2012, 02:25 PM
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Of course if you are considering a brand new CSX1000 series car, then this is picture is irrelevant.
This could just a trick of the light, but I think I see what you mean with CSX1001 (red) parked next to a polished aluminum CSX4000 series.
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01-02-2012, 03:07 PM
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It doesn't matter why your here. What matters is that you appreciate these cars!
The above pictures captures perfectly what I'm talking about. The front fender flares on the csx1000 cars seem a little more rounded, while the rear flares of the Kirkham bodied care seem a little more dramatic. Could be a lighting trick but I've noticed this in other photos....
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01-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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I'm really not sure why those with Kirkhams or Kirkham bodied cars seem to be so sensitive. I actually think some of the details on the Kirkham bodies are nicer (rear flares). It wasn't my intention to start a firestorm. As far as the Kirkhams go, its my understanding that they are in fact more hand fitted than stamped. Check out there website....
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01-02-2012, 05:13 PM
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Sorry, meant to say those who like or own Kirkham bodied cars.....
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01-02-2012, 05:43 PM
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... It wasn't my intention to start a firestorm. ...
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I seem to have missed the firestorm part. This seems like a pretty civilized thread to me. |
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