Familiar Shelby story?

[Russ Dickey]

I guess I'm looking at this a little differently, as it appears to me that Shelby is trying to disassociate himself with Unique Performance, as they have apparently been pissing off a lot of customers. There are several websites out there where guys are trying to get a class action rolling against them:

www.uniqueperformancescam.com
www.fixeleanor.com

I consider this a good move and would do it if I was Shelby. Since Unique Performance were the ones building all the cars and taking all the orders, how did Shelby leave them "holding the bag"?

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by Russ Dickey

I guess I'm looking at this a little differently, as it appears to me that Shelby is trying to disassociate himself with Unique Performance, as they have apparently been pissing off a lot of customers. There are several websites out there where guys are trying to get a class action rolling against them:

www.uniqueperformancescam.com
www.fixeleanor.com

I consider this a good move and would do it if I was Shelby. Since Unique Performance were the ones building all the cars and taking all the orders, how did Shelby leave them "holding the bag"?

Russ I think you are right in the sense that Shelby should disassociate themselves from such a troubled scenario, except for one thing.

What about the customers that shelled out 100-200K for an automobile based on Shelby's "alliance" and the Shelby name associated with this company.
Is it OK to suddenly ignore those who had confidence that the Shelby name offered the appearance of a valid product an company?
What of the Shelby name that attracted some of these customers to do business?

I read that Chip Foose isn't bailing out but wants to offer those that have paid out some serious money some form of satisfaction.
Remember there was something in this agreement for Shelby as well, (money? ya' think?) and when things start getting stinky they appear to be scurrying for a bail out.
I have been unable to find any information or statements from Shelby pertaining to helping those people who are getting screwed.

If a company is like Shelby is accepting residuals or fees for an affiliation with Unique, and things don't work out as planned, they too should bear some of the brunt of responsibility as well.

So, yeah, in my way of thinking, that type of "distancing" is leaving someone else holding the "bag"

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

If a company is like Shelby is accepting residuals or fees for an affiliation with Unique, and things don't work out as planned, they too should bear some of the brunt of responsibility as well.

Good lawyers will write into the deal docs/agreements "indemnification clauses" that hold harmless associated entities and individuals like the Chicken Farmer for when things get upside down. So it's all upside for Carroll (except the occasional bad press, which he is numb to now at his ripe age). But for younger guns like Chip Foose, he has a reputation (and future) to uphold. So he naturally would be more willing to formulate a compromise.

-Dean

[Russ Dickey]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

Russ I think you are right in the sense that Shelby should disassociate themselves from such a troubled scenario, except for one thing.

What about the customers that shelled out 100-200K for an automobile based on Shelby's "alliance" and the Shelby name associated with this company.
Is it OK to suddenly ignore those who had confidence that the Shelby name offered the appearance of a valid product an company?
What of the Shelby name that attracted some of these customers to do business?

I read that Chip Foose isn't bailing out but wants to offer those that have paid out some serious money some form of satisfaction.
Remember there was something in this agreement for Shelby as well, (money? ya' think?) and when things start getting stinky they appear to be scurrying for a bail out.
I have been unable to find any information or statements from Shelby pertaining to helping those people who are getting screwed.

If a company is like Shelby is accepting residuals or fees for an affiliation with Unique, and things don't work out as planned, they too should bear some of the brunt of responsibility as well.

So, yeah, in my way of thinking, that type of "distancing" is leaving someone else holding the "bag"

Ford, Chevrolet, Toyota, Van Halen, Jack Daniels, Dale Earnhardt Jr, Howard Stern...what do they all have in common? They all do licensing agreements with other parties who produce products with their name or likeness on it. Are they liable for a crappy product that the other party turns out? Nope. However, their respective licensing depts have the right to cut ties when a licensee is having excessive complaints or is turning out a product that the licensor deem "unacceptable". I guess I don't understand how this situation is any different.

I think maybe there are some hasty conclusions being drawn here. Just because we haven't read that the folks at Shelby aren't making an effort to rectify these situations doesn't mean they aren't. Relatively speaking, Shelby is a small company. Do you guys just expect them to start handing out $100K+ refunds to the people who Unique Performance has duped?

[xlr8or]

Originally Posted by Russ Dickey

I guess I'm looking at this a little differently, as it appears to me that Shelby is trying to disassociate himself with Unique Performance, as they have apparently been pissing off a lot of customers. There are several websites out there where guys are trying to get a class action rolling against them:

www.uniqueperformancescam.com
www.fixeleanor.com

I consider this a good move and would do it if I was Shelby. Since Unique Performance were the ones building all the cars and taking all the orders, how did Shelby leave them "holding the bag"?

Were these cars available through Shelby dealers? Were orders placed through them for cars built at Unique Performance?