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Old 09-26-2006, 11:18 AM
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That's the only original 427 Dragonsnake ever made:



The VIN ist CSX3198.


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Old 09-26-2006, 11:32 AM
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3159 was owned by Clem Hoppe. I saw it at Motion in '67 when I was a little younger.
It had Webers and if CRS doesn't attack, it ran 10's at New York National on those rock-hard slicks.
It sounded louder than mine does now with the same turn-outs.
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Old 09-26-2006, 05:07 PM
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Here are a few fairly recent photos of 3159

http://csxinfo.net/compcars/csx3159/index.htm
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The picture posted by hurricaneharold is not the same car as above. It is a 289 car. It is mislabled as a 427 (CSX3XXX). The forward braced roll bar, deck mounted fuel filler, narrow rear fenders and flat area surrounding front wheel opening are all telltale signs of a 289.
I once thought the same. If you check the historical photos for Shelby Cobras, you'll find that the original 427 race cars looked almost identical to the 289 including all of the "tell tale" signs mentioned above.
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:45 AM
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I once thought the same. If you check the historical photos for Shelby Cobras, you'll find that the original 427 race cars looked almost identical to the 289 including all of the "tell tale" signs mentioned above.

uh....not totally correct. The 'first' built 427 (CSX3002) used a wide-fendered 289 race car body that was widened an additional 2 inches along the tops of the fenders. It did have a forward braced roll bar. The quick fill was located on the right rear fender. 3002 was a prototype because the body buck at AC for the MKIII was not complete at the time. From CSX3003 the MKIII body buck was used.

Now, you might be thinking about CSX2196. That's the leaf spring car that had a 390 installed and then a 427. It became known as the "turd" or the "flip-top" Cobra.
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The picture posted by Harold is CSX2374.
Actually, that serial number belongs to an independent 289 drag Cobra that was owned by Norman Gray. According to the SAAC Registry, "Gray hooked up with Joel Rosen of Motion Performance" back then, but the car pictured is Joel's own Cobra, serial number still unkown. When I last talked to Joel, he'd love to find out where his car is now. If anyone has any leads, please let me know.

Incidentally, the picture came off the shelbyford.com web site. I found the original print on eBay a few years ago. It's small, only 3 x 4" in size. See http://www.shelbyford.com/independents.html

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Cobra that was owned by Norman Gray.
Ah, yes....Stormin' Normin", there is a real piece of work!
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The picture posted by Harold is CSX2374.

Notes I have say the car ran 11.04 @119mph
Does anyone have any more photo`s of CSX2374 that they can post or send me ?
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Great picture Harold.:
Paul Ertl have obviously taken the 427 Cobra, painted it gold ,added the Baldwin Motion decals and called it a Dragonsnake Cobra ..

I know the model your on about, as Ive seen it forsale at a few toy and model fairs

If you buy this model,you could add your own chassis No and call it a "Continuation Dragonsnake Cobra"...

You guys in the States are very lucky to have seen the Dragonsnake Cobra`s in the flesh
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Does anyone have any more photo`s of CSX2374 that they can post or send me ?
This is CSX2374 as of 1987 at SAAC 12.





Sorry, it's a picture of a poster.

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this is csx2374 as of 1987 at saac 12.




Sorry, it's a picture of a poster.
no worries,thankyou for posting the pic

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While Stormin' Norman did own CSX 2374 and did take it to Joel Rosen for tuning, that was NOT the gold Motion Performance drag car. Rosen bought his own Cobra to race and has said it was not the Norman Gray car, which is now owned by Carl Gross of NJ. Rosen says he sold the gold Cobra many years ago and has heard nothing of it since.
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Hurricaneharold- is this the fake,.....Motion snake you're talking about ?
Is there any from Motion that are documented or is this ugly gold, the only fake from them ?
Is there any Dragon Snake die casts, that are a good true to scale Cobra ?

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Paul,heres a photo of the Baldwin Motion Drag Cobra that Ertl have made a model of,they have also made a model of CSX 3159Attachment 11734
Ref. to the diecast Motion Cobra thread.
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While Stormin' Norman did own CSX 2374 and did take it to Joel Rosen for tuning, that was NOT the gold Motion Performance drag car. Rosen bought his own Cobra to race and has said it was not the Norman Gray car, which is now owned by Carl Gross of NJ. Rosen says he sold the gold Cobra many years ago and has heard nothing of it since.

Must admit , I have not seen any photo`s of a gold 427 drag Cobra.
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