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Old 02-21-2008, 01:19 PM
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Default Mustangs in Custom Car Caravan.'64 or '65?

I somehow thought the Alexander Bros. made a custom Mustang for a custom car caravan sponsored by Ford But in this story from a German website (fortunately in English)

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doesn't mention their name.But I wonder if the custom
Mustangs here influenced the Shelby GT350 or did the GT350 predate them?
I would like to trade pics if anyone shot any of these cars (even the Holman & Moody Falcon Challenger) but mostly I need the Pegasus or the two seat Mustang 2-seater coupe designed by Vince Gardner which might have been in the display.

I believe Lee Holman restored one of the Challengers and took it to England
recently for a vintage race. I think this car would have been in production if it had won when run at the Sebring 12 hour race in 1962. The car was built in three weeks and driven by Marvin Panch and Jocko Maggiacomo. Finished 2nd in class and 36th overall. In your wildest dreams, could you ever imagine a Falcon leading a Ferrari GTO at Sebring? One website says it was proposed for entry in the 1962 Le Mans 24 hours but the entry was not accepted. If it had been,history might have been different...see the fastback Challenger
at this website ReferenceFord
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I believe I have a pic of the 2 seat mustang. I will check and post if I still have it.

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Lee Holman did not restore one of the Challengers. The credit goes to Kim Haynes (Racetorations) in Gastonia, NC. He has restored at least two of the original three (all owned by the same individual).
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Default I meant as an owner he had them restored

I stand corrected. My excuse is, generally, unless you are going into a big article when you say in passing reference "and then Carroll Shelby had his Daytona restored" you don't mean he did it himself, but he consigned it to someone, a specialist. The big movers and shakers don't pick up hammers and tongs and do it themselves. My question about the Falcon Challengers though is:

1.)the finish at Sebring wasn't that far down (in fact better than when the first Cobras raced at Sebring) so why didn't Holman & Moody get the go-ahead to mass produce them?

2. The bodywork in the only picture I saw of a H & M Challenger looks a bit crude. Who did it?
Andy Hotten's shop? Dearborn Steel Tubing (which might be another name for Hotten's shop?) or some good ol' boys in North Carolina?

3. One explanation on the net said the Falcon Sprint program came out of the Falcon Challengers but I wonder if pretty much the mechanical layout was the same or the Falcon Challengers had major differences and beefing of the frame so that only the same size engine and gearbox were the same.

When I go to Fabulous Fords Forever in Buena Park, I will give the Falcon Sprints a new look. I spent many hours cruising Woodward in one in the Sixties
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Hi Historybuff; For the record, the Challengers were built at H&M in Charlotte,NC. Lee Holman in later years did not farm out the restorations on the two of three that were done. The owner of all three farmed out the restorations to his restorer and friend (Kim Haynes). If truth be told, Lee 'Probably' never had any involvement in the three Challengers other than as John Holmans son.
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The Alexander Brothers contributed the "Alexa" to the Custom Car Caravan.
Pics of the Pegasus can be seen on my site Mustang Pegasus
Original pics sourced from my friend Mark Gustavson/The Lynx Project.

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The Alexander Brothers participated with the Alexa in the caravan. (a 64 Galaxy based custom)
Pegasus pics - see site from my friend Mark Gustavson
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