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05-16-2009, 09:33 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: indianapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: shell valley 289 with edelbrock perfomer rpm setup.
Posts: 48
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Originally Posted by csx4910
Its sounds like you have sour grapes and should(if you haven't already ) sell your car and find anew hobby. I can only speak for myself but I bought my car KNOWING I would lose money on it if I ever sold it and 99% of the others on here did, ESPECIALLY in this economy. Companies exist to make a profit but that doesn't mean they are trying to take advantage of people or lie, cheat and steal to make a profit. There have been those that do but I believe it is the minority in this hobby, not the majority. If you are that unhappy, take the loss, sell your car and go find a new hobby.
Ron 
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I did sell it.I didn't have the car as a hobby i built it because you could piece everything together and was planning on driving it.All of the welding
and fitting involved in putting it together tends to be more work then
these companies let on,they tend to exaggerate on the time involved in building them.I wouldn't weld stainless steel that is exposed etc.
Most people call these fun or is suppossed to be fun.Maybe driving them is fun but building them couldn't be.If four people were on it all at one time you might build one in 100 hours or so.This Kirkham Motorsports told me they built one for
charity and had four people on it at one time and it was completed in a
reasonable length of time.One person i don't think could build one completely
from the frame by themselves in 100 hours to completion.I seen where they built a Factory Five Cobra but there was five people on it or so at one time.
It was a Factory Five building school or something where they showed people
how to build one.Not only do they exaggerate about the build time but they also exaggerate about the money it takes to put one together.As far as
building or buying another Cobra Kit Car it is highly doubtful.
Last edited by compaq; 05-17-2009 at 03:01 PM..
Reason: don't want on this forum
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05-16-2009, 10:13 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Black CSX 4910, Roush 511 8 stack
Posts: 1,206
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To each his own. I knew I didn't have the experience or more importantly the time to build my own so I had someone build it so I could enjoy the driving. The are guys on this site who have been building for 10 years and some that finish in 3-6 months so I don't think it is fair to blame the manufacturers on over exxagerating the build time. they have no way of knowing the level of each person's expereince, or thier tools available etc.
If you sold it in the last year you just took a bigger hit than you would of last year so that magnifies your frustration but the economy isn't the manufacturers fault.
My question is that if you sold it and you are so sour on the "kit car" part of the hobby, why do you still hang out here?
Ron 
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05-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Originally Posted by csx4910
My question is that if you sold it and you are so sour on the "kit car" part of the hobby, why do you still hang out here? Ron 
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For the gratuitous a$$ kicking?
A contradictory opinion is welcome, as long as it's informed.
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05-16-2009, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
For the gratuitous a$$ kicking? 
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Yep, there I was minding my own business, staying out of everybody's way, and not hurting anybody... and GotTheBug just drops a grenade down my shorts for no reason. 
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05-16-2009, 02:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Yep, there I was minding my own business, staying out of everybody's way, and not hurting anybody... and GotTheBug just drops a grenade down my shorts for no reason. 
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Well, you were questioning the sanity, I mean, the business plan, of the new Shell Valley owners and ready to setup a Truth Commission in order to delve into the specifics of whether someone with an architectural degree could run a cobra replica business successfully. Other than that? Yes, you were minding your own business. 
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05-16-2009, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: indianapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: shell valley 289 with edelbrock perfomer rpm setup.
Posts: 48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csx4910
To each his own. I knew I didn't have the experience or more importantly the time to build my own so I had someone build it so I could enjoy the driving. The are guys on this site who have been building for 10 years and some that finish in 3-6 months so I don't think it is fair to blame the manufacturers on over exxagerating the build time. they have no way of knowing the level of each person's expereince, or thier tools available etc.
If you sold it in the last year you just took a bigger hit than you would of last year so that magnifies your frustration but the economy isn't the manufacturers fault.
My question is that if you sold it and you are so sour on the "kit car" part of the hobby, why do you still hang out here?
Ron 
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I never hung out here i just posted some things about Shell Valley going
out of business was the only reason i posted anything at all to begin with.
I was just informing people of that since i was one of the first people notified to get their car since they were locked out of the building.That was my only reason for ever posting anything on here.Since i had to get my car and they were out of business i felt i should post my experience with kit cars in general.That is all.
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05-16-2009, 02:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: No city...only 118 residents in Manter,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Auto Works body, Ron Godell Racecars chassis, 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 HO (converted to carb), W/C T-5, 3.73's in a Ford 9" Traction-Loc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by compaq
I seen where they built a Factory Five Cobra but there was five people on it or so at one time.
It was a Factory Five building school or something where they showed people
how to build one.Not only do they exaggerate about the build time but they also exaggerate about the money it takes to put one together.
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I read the same article....what wasn't really emphasized was that all the holes for the rivets to hold the panels on had already been drilled, eliminating an incredibly time-consuming part of the build process. So, yeah, the car did go together in a day, but lots of work was done in advance so that those 5 individuals could put it together so quickly.
Those Herculean effors never include interior or body and paint time, either, just putting the kit together into a runner.
Dugly 
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