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06-29-2010, 09:22 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CRII with a Stroked Windsor
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Reverse brake bleeders
Has anyone here ever used a reverse brake bleeder? I redid my brakes a few weeks ago and while they work quite well I think there is more there. I think one of these may help me find the more by removing any remaining any air bubbles. Your thoughts most welcome.
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07-01-2010, 05:31 AM
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Do you mean a pressure bleeder?
I never could get all the air out of my brake lines after installing them until I bought one of these - works great:
Motive Products Power Bleeder Kits
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07-01-2010, 08:36 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Gravity Bleed
The next time I bleed my brakes I am going to try the "gravity bleed" method. You know, you just open the bleeder screw and let it it dribble out slowly while you sit there on your stool and make sure the reservoir stays full? In almost four decades of brake and clutch bleeding I have never tried that, and it sounds too easy to actually work, but supposedly it does....
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07-01-2010, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PSB
Do you mean a pressure bleeder?
I never could get all the air out of my brake lines after installing them until I bought one of these - works great:
Motive Products Power Bleeder Kits
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I use this one too. Just need to get the right adapter to fit on your cans. Also, if you have the old Girling tin cans, be careful about blowing them up with the pressure!! I changed over to the Kirkham reservoirs, so no worries there, and can change out my brake fluid in about 5-10 min with the car up on a Kwiklift.
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07-01-2010, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
The next time I bleed my brakes I am going to try the "gravity bleed" method. You know, you just open the bleeder screw and let it it dribble out slowly while you sit there on your stool and make sure the reservoir stays full? In almost four decades of brake and clutch bleeding I have never tried that, and it sounds too easy to actually work, but supposedly it does....
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lol, that's all I've ever used but, a pressure system would be nice if I'm in a hurry.
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07-01-2010, 12:18 PM
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You can also make your own with an oil can and some hose. Just pump it up from the oil can through caliper. Worked great on my clutch. |
07-01-2010, 12:50 PM
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I know this sounds crazy, but I have had the most luck by buying a clear line long enough to go from the bleeder to the reservoir and clip it so it will not drop off. Then pump it until no air bubbles.
Problem I had with my Cobra was the rear Calipers were tilted so that the bleeder was not at the very top. I didn't get them perfect unil I unbolted them and set them at the right angle.
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07-01-2010, 04:46 PM
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This is the one I got after being extremely frustrated with trying to get the clutch bled. It makes really good sense to force the fluid up into the reservoir and push the bubbles up into the canister. bled whole system in 1/2 hour by myself, including the clutch.
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07-01-2010, 09:06 PM
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gravity feed
I have bleed the front brakes on my car by:
1. Wilwood suggests tilting the caliper straight up. Of course, that means unbolting the front and loosening the back. (You could tilt the car straight up I suppose...)
2. take a ~6 foot length of plastic tube and clip it to the top of a step ladder. Obviously it has to fit the bleeder well, or this won't work and you have a mess.
3. SLOWLY pump the pedal and let the air bubble straight up and out the plastic tube...watch that the tube doesn't overflow. You can get out of the car to refill the reservoir, no need to close the valve, just let the air bubble up.
Don't really need to use a catch bottle if you watch the fluid level in the hose. The fluid tends to get pulled back into caliper when you release the pedal.
When the air stops coming out, tighten the bleeder then drain the tube into a container. 1 liter soda bottle works well.
Pretty hard to find anyone to help with bleeding and this works for me.
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07-02-2010, 03:30 AM
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reverse brake bleeder by Phoenix system Is by far the best way to bleed brakes your pushing air up and out of the master cyclinder which is the way air wants to go.
Fast and easy for one person and a lot less messy than my old pressure system, I can bleed my brakes on my car or bike in 10 mins by myself.
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07-02-2010, 03:55 AM
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Ditto on the Phoenix, works on very difficult to bleed systems.
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07-02-2010, 07:21 PM
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Bleeding
I have used both vacuum at the bleeder screw and the Phoenix system to push the fluid backwards.
I like the Phoenix system but have issues with the bleed screw seeping fluid when you are working the system. Same with the vacuum approach, the bleed screw threads leak.
Either way, fix the leaking threads and either approach works well. I've seen some sites that offer a sealing compound to put on them but haven't tried that yet
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07-02-2010, 07:56 PM
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No matter what system you use, Russell Speed Bleeders are the key. Won't seep fluid past the threads, and the check ball closes as soon as the pressure or suction stops. Open once, bleed and close once.
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07-03-2010, 12:34 PM
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I bought one of the phoenix reverse bleeders. Works like AWESOME. I don't think it will work with the speed bleeders but then again you won't need them. Glad I bought it. Too bad it's so damn expensive.. LOL But I now have the hardest pedal I have ever had in the cobra. It's so good I want to go bleed the other 5 cars now.. hehehe
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07-03-2010, 01:10 PM
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With speed bleeders I filled and bled for the the first time the brakes on my wifes 33 ford coupe in about 10 minutes---by myself---just got to keep master full of fluid and go at it
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07-03-2010, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
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With speed bleeders I filled and bled for the the first time the brakes on my wifes 33 ford coupe in about 10 minutes---by myself---just got to keep master full of fluid and go at it
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X2 using a vacuum bleeder. Takes longer to GET to the rears on the Jag than doing the whole job.
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