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Old 08-03-2004, 05:23 AM
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Default Oil Pan Gasket Install ?'s

I'm getting ready to put the oil pan back on my 351W and I am at a loss as how to get the gasket lined up properly. I've tried a few times without success, it's pretty difficult with laying on my back with only one set of hands.
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Old 08-03-2004, 05:28 AM
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Roger,

You didn't mention which gasket you are using. I use the Milodon, one piece gasket (Summit part # MIL-41004). I haven't had to install one while the engine is in the vehicle, but it is a one piece rubber gasket with tabs that hold it in place while you install it.

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I've taken gasket adhesive and put a little on the gasket and stick it to the pan, alligning the screw holes, let it set for about 15 minutes and then install the pan.
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Studs make it easier, even just on the corners would help.
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Wow!
Thank you everyone for the great suggestions.
I have the one piece gasket from summit. I will make some studs from all-thread sock and use some blue RTV to tack down the gasket.
Thanks again everyone.
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I thought I learned it here:

Blue RTV for sealing water related items

Black for Oil related

and Red for exhaust.
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I'll add my $0.02:

Place studs on all bolt holes, 1/4 x 20 and 5/16 on ends.
use locktite on the studs and let dry.

Blue, high performance RTV on one side and use nuts to help hold it in place.

Then coat the pan side after the rtv is set with axel grease. Pless the pan up and run the corner studs on first. then do a swap pattern side to side working from front to rear as you tighten the bolts.

DO NOT squish the gasket out. The grease will seal the pan for years and if you have to pull it again, it just drops off.

Go easy one th RTV as blubs in the oil pan may get loose and clog the oil pickup.
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Roger:

You can find nice usable (1" - 1 1/4" x 1/4" & 5/16") studs at a good auto supply store or Tractor/farm suppy outlet. Dorman makes them (black heat treated) among others. Look for an orange box with little drawers.
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Thank you everyone.
I took the advice offered here and the oil pan went back on without a hitch.
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Roger,

Read the instructions with the gasket! Most of the rubber one piece gaskets use NO SEALER OF ANY KIND!
Silicone is WAY over rated. I can not tell you how many engines I have taken apart because someone put silicone all over a timing cover, pan gasket or even intake and valve covers.
The stuff breaks of inside the engine and plugs up oil drain backs , pick up screens, rads and on and on.
If you are installing the gasket on your back ask your wife or girl friend for a bit of thread. Tie the gasket to the pan by way of a few holes. When you get the pan up in place trim the threads off and install the rest of the bolts. Works every time.
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I agree! Rubber pan gaskets need no sealer, just put it on dry.
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OOPS,
I put a very thin film to tack the gasket to the pan, no globs or run-off over the edges. I'll keep an eye on the oil pressure gauge.
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I realize you already have yours back on but someone might benefit from another process in the future. I used the same gasket as Tony and installed it on the car from underneath. I didn't use any sealers or studs. I purchased some Permatex gasket adhesive and applied it to the bottom of the block and let it "tack off" then just put the one piece up in place on the bottom of the block and raised the oil pan to the block and installed the OEM style bolts.

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since i was doing my oil pump about four times, i got a one piece felpro Marine gasket, but it was so soft i could't get it to stick on the block, so i got a old metal sump from the wrecking yard, had the guy cut it off so i just had the flange, he used a Sawsall, then i can use it to tack the gasket up, snug it with studs, tweaking the little nibs at the front and rear so they fit into the tiny recesses, then when it drys with the tack, carefully remove the flange, and install my Aviad. It is nice to put on a gasket "from the inside", the sump cut off was only a few bucks.

Worked for me, but the most things do....
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