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Old 12-04-2006, 04:17 PM
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Look at the Holley site:
http://www.holley.com/0-80509-1.asp

and look at the 4150 HP series carb. Double Pumper, mechanical secondary with a metering block, accel pump and power valve on both the primary and secondary sides. Part #: 0-80509-1
You can't see the second pump lever on the pic that Sal posted because it's on the other side of the carb and the picture doesn't show it.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:21 PM
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http://www.holley.com/data/Products/...199R8407-2.pdf

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Sal is 100% correct.
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Holley 4224 and 9776 are mechanical secondary carbs without a secondary accelerator pump. But, they are for a special application. I got this off of a description.


Notes: This has a mechanical secondary, but no secondary accelerator pump circuit. It is designed for a mulitiple carburetor application ONLY, it will not function properly on a single carburetor application.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:10 PM
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Holley 4224 and 9776 are mechanical secondary carbs without a secondary accelerator pump. But, they are for a special application. I got this off of a description.


Notes: This has a mechanical secondary, but no secondary accelerator pump circuit. It is designed for a mulitiple carburetor application ONLY, it will not function properly on a single carburetor application.
The 660s are meant for dual carb setups, but the 450 can be either dual or single.

I've been running these carbs on my brothers ProStreet Mustang for the past 5 years, and they have performed flawlessly.
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Thanks for the info Sal. I had forgotten about the center squirters. While they were several sizes made there are now only a couple, actually, I only saw on that wasn't a marine one. For Anthony, it has a single 50cc pump up front and uses a nozzle in the middle of the carb to spray both primaries and secondaries. They way they are able to do this is by making the secondaries 1:1 with the primaries, where as the double pumpers have a "progressive" secondary and need the extra pump since they do not open simultaneously with the primaries. While you could potentially operate one on the street it would be pretty twitchy. As noted they are race carbs, designed for 2-4 set ups, also notice there is no choke.
That's the 600cfm 4224. The 9776 isn't listed in my Holley catalog, although it is listed in the reference pages of parts. So it may or may not be a center squirter like the 4224.
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Old 12-05-2006, 05:44 AM
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Just a note as everyone else has covered the technical issues of this. In the Jegs Catalog that I have, the Double Pumpers are listed in a separate group and it says Double Pumper on the top. Then they list the carb. numbers and sizes. The actual heading as I look at the book is " Classic Double Pumper" and it then gives all the sizes from 600 cfm through 850 cfm, in either the normal copper finish or the zinc finish. Some not in that group are double pumpers and will list the size of the primary and secondary pumps. Others will say mechanical secondaries, which aren't double pumpers.

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I was previously running the 660 center squirters. When they were working you could actually FEEL the difference between them and the vacuum secondaries I currently run. They were FAST!

WHEN they were working, tough to dial in and tough to stay dialed in. I called them 'nervous' carbs on the street. They were like on or off.
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