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05-18-2011, 04:00 AM
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Also I need to mention that a week ago - I notice that the oil pressure gauge died.
Note sure if this is helping solving the mystery... I am going to cut my spare filter now and report back.
thanx - Andronikos,
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05-18-2011, 07:13 AM
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So here is the Motorcraft FL-300 filter and all the internal parts... No spring or anything like the 3 tiny parts I found in my oil. So I guess I have to check what Mr.DonC is saying.

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05-18-2011, 08:36 AM
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I'd agree with DonC. Since you added the info your oil pressure gauge stop working, perhaps thats because you have no oil pressure. If you havent figured out the root cause yet, a few pics of how you have your system plumbed would help us. perhaps (remote adapter??) the filter was mounted to spewed the parts. You've eliminated the filter at least, but the components you found are definitely a by-pass or check valve. perhaps you're using a remote mount system and its adpater has lost its valve  . In any case, it goes without saying not to start that motor until you can confirm you have oil pressure using a hand held mech, test gauge while CRANKING engine with fuel/spark disabled. good luck. If it was the remote adapter, please share the brand and part number so other folks here can be aware.
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05-18-2011, 08:53 AM
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Don't be cranking the engine unless you are sure you have oil pressure first.
Pull the distributor & use a drill with a oil pump drive shaft to check things first. That way there will be no further harm to engine.
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05-18-2011, 09:24 AM
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Now after reading this I have 1-2 more things to mention:
I bought this car 4weks ago - around 670miles , 2 days after the slave cylinder died (previous owner never bleed the fluids).
I replaced the slave cylinder... I was driving the car for 2 weeks and I decided to change oil/sparks etc so I have peace of mind - and I found these pieces on my oil...
So now I am around 900miles still breaking the engine. (actually I am not driving it anymore).
Before the oil change this is my story: - driving between 2000 - 4000rpm. But there where some times that I tried to push couple of gears and I noticed that:
1) When I press full throttle, after 4000rpm was not operating well, like the carburetors are not well tuned (not sure how you say that in English -hope you understand what I mean). If I press 3/4 of throttle then it goes well (of course not using all the power but at least smooth) up-to 5200rpm. I have past experience with 2-stroke motrcycle engines so I thought that maybe I need to push it more so it "cleans". I do not want to do that since I am still "trying" to break in the engine.
2) So I feel that it is impossible to accelerate fast and all the way up to 6000rpm. (even if I do not care about the "break in" - simply the engine does not allow me)
At the beginning I though it was spark plugs so I change them. Then I thought that the previous owner was using wrong oil. I change that as well. Yesterday I convinced myself that it is just a carburetor that needs to be tuned.
Now I really do not know what it is...If this pressure oil and the tiny parts I found on my oil filter are connected with the acceleration issues etc...If something serious is happening...
Thanx - Andronikos,
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05-18-2011, 10:57 AM
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Hi guys, I need to add:
I checked the oil level before the oil change - maybe 2-3 days before. Car was cold on flat surface and the oil level was about 1" (2-3cm) above the maximum level.
Do you think that this hi oil level, maybe caused an excessive pressure and caused the damage?
Also the mechanic told me that he found these pieces on the magnet - I did not see them coming from my engine (I went for a soda that time). Maybe he accidentally placed the oil filter on a bench and the magnet picked these up...?
I am thinking all possible scenarios cause the guys from Performance Engineering saying:
"Hi Andronikos,
We believe the Backdraft's do not use and oil filter adapter, so that rules that out. I have talked to Eric and two other engine builders here, they all agree that all the parts found in the oil pan are not from any of the components inside the engine. All of our 408 Windsor Cobra Special engines do not have any check valves, like those parts found appear to be. Those parts possibly may be from a previous oil filter the original customer used. We suggest definitely switching over to the Ford Racing High Performance oil filter CM-6731-FL1A, after you that we don't seem why it wouldn't be ok to run your car. Your more than welcome to get a second opinion. Hope this helps".
My reply:
I just talked to the previous owner and he told be that he has never
used a different oil filter (Motorcraft FL300). As you can see from
the above image - there are no tiny parts in this filter.
What are these parts? Maybe do not belong to my car? That will be totally crazy? I am looking many hrs to find a similar metallic cup and I can not find any spare part that using that thing! So maybe it is not mine? And the dead psi oil gauge? Coincidence? ...
Thanx - Andronikos,
Last edited by andronikos916; 05-18-2011 at 11:02 AM..
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05-18-2011, 11:54 AM
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Eric just found what these tiny parts are: It is the Ford Racing lifter.
Hi,
Please see the attached photos, sorry our camera is not high res. Eric has taken apart a new ford Racing lifter, he found the exact style parts you found, these parts were in the very bottom of the lifter. Please call Eric so he can discuss.

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05-22-2011, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by andronikos916
Also I need to mention that a week ago - I notice that the oil pressure gauge died.
thanx - Andronikos,
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!st,I'm sorry about your engine build problem.I hope it doesn't end up leaving a bad taste for Cobras.
With your pushrods disappearing down the holes,I think the lifters being launched out of their bores certainly had a bad effect on the oil pressure.
Good job on the video.
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05-22-2011, 09:27 AM
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Diagnosing the problem by the photos is almost impossible in this case, breaking off the rocker studs indicate you have a valve train problem, find it and fix it, and you'll be fine.....I would leave things as they are now and contact the engine builder...not sure if there is any warranty or not at this point, but would definetly get with the builder if nothing else to find out about how the engine was built and the components used.....
Something ain't right under the valve covers...........
David
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