Roush Engine Warranty Exclusions.

ItBites · #1 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 11:44 AM

RodKnock,

My engine(s) has run a Haltech EFI since 1996 (thats right 1996). When I switched from the little 427 to the 540 a few years ago, I did have it retuned for WOT on the dyno (540 rwhp). I also did about 2 weeks of driveability tuning after that and it has run great again for about 4 years. As far as going thru the gears, I do it all the time and the car runs mid 10s on pump gas and street tires (does yours?). You have no business arguing that EFI doesn't work well. All the OEMS can produce 600HP and have great driveability with EFI. However there are a lot of folks living in the past that do not understand the systems well enough to tune them and won't take the time to think the systems through who will never figure them out. These folks are the complainers - if you don't understand, complain - forget learning something... Anyway, EFI works great if you understand it, in fact mine is really simple to make corrections with a laptop, you just have to be able to use the laptop

RodKnock · #2 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ItBites

RodKnock,

You have no business arguing that EFI doesn't work well.

You didn't read and/or understand a word I said. So, a response is superfluous.

RodKnock · #3 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ItBites

RAs far as going thru the gears, I do it all the time and the car runs mid 10s on pump gas and street tires (does yours?).

Oops! I did want to respond to one item in your post.

I've never run my Cobra in the 1/4 mile. It's likely I won't either.

But, let's race the old fashioned way. Like cavemen. Forget the cars for a moment and let's race on foot, say 40 yards, a 100 meters, a 5K, a 10K or even a triathlon. I don't care, though my swimming technique needs some work.

Dimis · #4 (**permalink**) 11-06-2012, 03:33 PM

ItBites makes some valid points about the "Good 'ol boys" not having kept up with the EFI tech.
In their defence, they haven't been forced to. Most everywhere else in the world emissions laws have strangled the carb out of existence and forced our hands at adopting the tech.

I had a local expert take a look at a couple photos (and a couple youtube clips) of the old Dynaformance Dynatek system and they pretty much summed up with just that info most of the problems that have historically plagued this system with its set up.
If I new they could bloody do, that I'd have saved myself a ton of research on multiple forums!!!

For anyone who cares - efihardware.com
Throttle Bodies, EFI Fuel Pumps, EFI Regulators, Wolf 3D Engine Management Systems, EFI Hardware
Highly recommended and total pros!

Back on to the topic of Roush.
For mine - You're not on this earth long enough to learn from just your own mistakes.
You need to learn from that of others also.
There have clearly been enough people bitten by Roush engine builds that it just doesn't make sense to knowingly select them as the engine builder of choice.
Particularly as there are alternate options who provide better results, better service and at a lower price.
Brent @ B2 Motorsports would be one example.

For those of you who are happy with your Roush, good for you.
But they have little to no chance of getting me to part with my hard earned!

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

But, let's race the old fashioned way. Like cavemen. Forget the cars for a moment and let's race on foot, say 40 yards, a 100 meters, a 5K, a 10K or even a triathlon. I don't care, though my swimming technique needs some work.

Count me in! I'm up for that...

Just as long as the race doesn't call for any Yoga poses