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Old 12-27-2020, 09:50 PM
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Wow, a lot of information for a non-gearhead like me to try and absorb. The information provided is enlightening and I'm interested in learning more.

I can change oil, brake pads and in my 1968 Mopar do plugs, points, timing but reading the thread, the options and understanding the specs of the motors...I feel like I'm drinking out of a fire hydrant.

Olddog's review of the Blueprint website is informative and has me pausing in looking further into that option.

I also find interesting that 427Larry is having a 427 FE built. I'm looking at that as well.

What I've learned is, talk to people who know! Thanks to all for the effort you put into this tread in helping me understand what my best option may be.

I may take your advise and call Brent and Woody's Automotive.

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I'd be happy to speak to you in detail.

In other professions, there are specialists in their fields. Lawyers break down into corporate lawyers, tax lawyers, etc. Doctors break down into orthopedic surgeons, neonatal specialists, etc.

I'm a Ford engine builder, but I specialize in FE's. Of all the engines on my docket right now, I have (1) 390, (1) 352, (2) 428's, (1) 427 High Riser, (1) 465 Tunnel Port, and (5) 496's. Several of those engines belong to Club Cobra forum members.

I also manufacturer or arrange the manufacturing of several FE-related products, including roller-tipped non-adjustable rocker arms, 1-piece laser cut rocker stand shims, and some tools for working on Fords.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:00 PM
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Gus M -
I selected a BluePrint small block 427 for my Superformance Cobra. Why? I did not feel the need for a big block unless I wanted an increase in displacement greater than 427 cid.
Check their website, some of the specs:
Dart block
Forged Crank, pistons, rods
Roller hydraulic lifters
Aluminum heads and intake manifold
Holly carb
MSD ignition
The dyno sheet for my engine claims 548 HP and 542 torque
Warranty: 30 months, 50 thousand miles
Give them a call if you have any other questions, unlike a competitor they answered my call and answered all my questions.
Part # BPF4273CTCK serial # 354439
The install done by Crown in Tucson is quite sanitary including a remote oil filter. Spark plugs are a easy reach on the small block. There have been no leaks.

Dave and SNAKE65 -- so far so good
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Gus M -
I selected a BluePrint small block 427 for my Superformance Cobra. Why? I did not feel the need for a big block unless I wanted an increase in displacement greater than 427 cid.
Check their website, some of the specs:
Dart block
Forged Crank, pistons, rods
Roller hydraulic lifters
Aluminum heads and intake manifold
Holly carb
MSD ignition
The dyno sheet for my engine claims 548 HP and 542 torque
Warranty: 30 months, 50 thousand miles
Give them a call if you have any other questions, unlike a competitor they answered my call and answered all my questions.
Part # BPF4273CTCK serial # 354439
The install done by Crown in Tucson is quite sanitary including a remote oil filter. Spark plugs are a easy reach on the small block. There have been no leaks.

Dave and SNAKE65 -- so far so good
What crank, pistons, rods and heads went into the build?
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Old 01-17-2021, 06:51 AM
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I also find interesting that 427Larry is having a 427 FE built. I'm looking at that as well.

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FEs are essential if you want to be period correct. However, a stroker SBF factory block, up to 408 cu in, is about 150 pounds lighter and $4,000 less than FE iron block. SBF/Dart block up to 468, I went with 427 per builders recommendations for longevity, about $2000 less.
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No one has commented on the Blueprint engines.

They are sold through Jegs and Summit.

We just tore down a $6100 347 Blue Print motor sold by Jegs. We know it had 5,000 miles on it but think it may have had less than a thousand miles when Ron bought the car last year. We are guessing 6,000.

The second time Ron wound it up through third gear one of the .040"
hypereutectic piston broke a piece out of the top. Common problem with Hypereutectic pistons if the rings are not gaped correct.
I had two engine mechanic to look at it. They said the rings were gaped to tight for the amount of heat build up when running the motor hard. One builder said he ran a Chev with hypereutectic pistons on his drag car for two years with no problem but he gaped the rings more than recommended.

The crank and rods are cast, Melling oil pump, MSD distributor, Holley carb, cast cam that was being eat up because the distributor gear was steel, Edelbrock fuel pump, all the other parts have no numbers on them or they are the cheapest part available.

This is the only Blue Print motor I have seen. Make your own decision.

We are having the motor rebuild with forged pistons and a new cam. Ron over paid for the Mustang and does not want to buy a new motor.
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No one has commented on the Blueprint engines.

They are sold through Jegs and Summit.

We just tore down a $6100 347 Blue Print motor sold by Jegs. We know it had 5,000 miles on it but think it may have had less than a thousand miles when Ron bought the car last year. We are guessing 6,000.

The second time Ron wound it up through third gear one of the .040"
hypereutectic piston broke a piece out of the top. Common problem with Hypereutectic pistons if the rings are not gaped correct.
I had two engine mechanic to look at it. They said the rings were gaped to tight for the amount of heat build up when running the motor hard. One builder said he ran a Chev with hypereutectic pistons on his drag car for two years with no problem but he gaped the rings more than recommended.

The crank and rods are cast, Melling oil pump, MSD distributor, Holley carb, cast cam that was being eat up because the distributor gear was steel, Edelbrock fuel pump, all the other parts have no numbers on them or they are the cheapest part available.

This is the only Blue Print motor I have seen. Make your own decision.

We are having the motor rebuild with forged pistons and a new cam. Ron over paid for the Mustang and does not want to buy a new motor.

No different than Jasper or others. Assembly line engines. You get what you pay for.
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Wow thread was hijacked sorry. I looked into engines sold on line, mass production type. Did a ton of searching before I settled on an engine. I'm blessed to have a few good friends who race sprint and drag cars, also tractor pullers. One thing they all said, internal engine components must be forged. I used Callies crank and rods and JE pistons, Isky Red zone lifters and Milodon gear drive. I spent double what I would've spent if I had bought an off the shelf engine. I do not regret spending the extra money, I don't believe the engines on line would have the performance my current engine has. Just my 2 cents.
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