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02-23-2022, 06:24 PM
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Does anyone actually make what would be a modern "big block"? I would think the physical size would make it not practical. Economically, from both engine physical size and the space it would take to mount it, it would increase the size and weight for little gain over an equivalent small block...
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02-24-2022, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
Does anyone actually make what would be a modern "big block"? I would think the physical size would make it not practical. Economically, from both engine physical size and the space it would take to mount it, it would increase the size and weight for little gain over an equivalent small block...
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Ford Performance catalog still lists big block crate engines. 572 CID. 655 Horsepower @ 5500 RPM. 710 lb.-ft. torque @ 4500 rpm. Pump gas.
Front sump: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-572DF
Rear sump: https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-572DR

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02-24-2022, 12:30 PM
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I'm not surprised and maybe was even aware of the crate engines but the original query was directed at modern production vehicles.
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02-24-2022, 01:31 PM
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I'm not surprised and maybe was even aware of the crate engines but the original query was directed at modern production vehicles.
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I was of a similar opinion until just recently Tony. I somehow missed the car below in Ford's 2003 SEMA Show booth. It qualifies (in my book) for the tightest engine fit I have ever seen.
FRPP unbelievably built two of these RS8 Focus vehicles using their FR500-C Modmotor racing engine for power. Dimensionally (width and height-wise), Modmotors are actually larger
than a 427 SOHC! Here is a pic of the lone survivor;
The other car was crushed, as Ford so often does when they don't want the item circulating in the real world. Amazingly this copy escaped the crusher and is now residing in Scotland.
Ford commissioned McLaren to do both builds and the workmanship is typical over the top McLaren.
Here is the car in the driveway of the current owner residing in Scotland;
Definitely waay cool and my bet is that, today, it is likely worth a king's ransom.
p.s. Here is a closer look at the underhood fit;

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02-24-2022, 02:43 PM
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Ed,
To add to what you were describing, here's a link: https://kugelkomponents.com/focus-v-8/
Don't really know whether it is still viable...
Looked at these before I built my 1981 Mercury Zephyr wagon with the 557, but that's another story.
There was a dealer for these near me in Tavares Florida who had a couple of them built and could supply parts when I visited him around 7-8(?) years ago. I almost put the 557 into a Focus wagon instead, as it clearly would fit, along with the automatic and 8.8 axle. Would have been a fun car, then and now.
Sorry for continuing the hijacked thread,
Tom
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02-24-2022, 03:15 PM
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I was of a similar opinion until just recently Tony. I somehow missed the car below in Ford's 2003 SEMA Show booth. It qualifies (in my book) for the tightest engine fit I have ever seen.
FRPP unbelievably built two of these RS8 Focus vehicles using their FR500-C Modmotor racing engine for power. Dimensionally (width and height-wise), Modmotors are actually larger
than a 427 SOHC! Here is a pic of the lone survivor;
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I think the tightest fit I ever saw was a cammer in a Cobra. Or for that matter, a Cammer in almost anything.
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