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Old 09-25-2023, 07:08 PM
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Thanks for all the info

The Ford long block I bought comes with a high volume pump, nothing I changed.
The engine will be set up with an external oil filter and the supplied filter is a high volume racing filter and the pan holds 9 quarts.

Today I spun the pump with a drill and could get it up around 85 psi.

When using the test stand at idle, warm oil, gage read 80 psi and fluctuated when revving the engine.

Not sure I understand about reducing the bypass spring force, in that case what’s the sense of using a high volume pump?

I find it hard to believe that I have the only long block from Ford that has this problem. Based on my serial number they should be able to see if there were any problems similar to mine.

Guess I will wait and see what the engineers at Ford say about it, after all they have to give me a 24 month warranty, just don’t want to remove the engine from my car if this isn’t right to begin with.

Thanks again for the reply’s.

David

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Thanks for all the info

Not sure I understand about reducing the bypass spring force, in that case what’s the sense of using a high volume pump?

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There are times when you want a high volume pump. In contrast to your small block, my stroked flat tappet FE has .003 main clearances and .0028 rod clearances. It also has a remote filter and an oil cooler. It runs 15w40 oil and my hot idle pressure is 15psi, sometimes less. This is when idling at 650 and my oil pressure comes up instantly with revs and generally will be in the mid 40's at 2000 RPM when really hot. The lifter galleries are plugged (solid cam) and I have .060 restrictors up top in the heads. And I run a Melling high volume pump.
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Do not equate pressure with volume.
Pressure and flow rate (volume) are linked at the hip, although they do not have a first-order relationship. The relationship between pressure and flow is a second-order relationship.

Flow increases as the square of pressure. To double the flow through an orifice, you will need to raise the pressure of the fluid pre-orifice by a factor of four (2 squared).

It is not just simplistic to say they are not related, it is wrong. They are linked at the hip.
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