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06-11-2008, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lewiston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B, 1969 392w, Tremec TKO
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1969 emissions
Can someone tell me what emissions equipment came standard on a 1969 351w? I need to know what will be required to pass my New York state inspection. Thanks...
Mike
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06-12-2008, 06:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates,SBF 357
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All you need is a pcv valve.
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06-12-2008, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sharpe 1
All you need is a pcv valve.
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I'll second that as a confirmation.......
Bill S.
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06-12-2008, 10:19 AM
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Location: Williamsport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
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emissions
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Originally Posted by sharpe 1
All you need is a pcv valve.
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I'll third that....
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06-12-2008, 10:55 AM
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Location: Lewiston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B, 1969 392w, Tremec TKO
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Thanks guys... I was hoping that the PCV was all I needed.
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08-11-2008, 01:22 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: San Jose CA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF_R_/BRG/FRBoss302/327CI/FordEFI/Under_Car_Exh/
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Late to the party -- what was the answer >?
I think 1969 fords also had smog pumps and thermostatic air cleaners.
(calif)
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08-11-2008, 04:26 AM
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Quote:
I think 1969 fords also had smog pumps and thermostatic air cleaners.
(calif)
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And a PCV.
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08-11-2008, 06:48 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
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Yes the nice Blue Thermactor Air Cleaner, what a wonderful addition.........NOT!
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08-11-2008, 06:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PANAVIA
Late to the party -- what was the answer >?
I think 1969 fords also had smog pumps and thermostatic air cleaners.
(calif)
--Steve
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Yes, in California, but not New York State Guess you missed that part of the original posters question
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08-11-2008, 07:23 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
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Mike:
On August 1, CT implemented new emissions system/hardware standards for replica/kit cars ( Composite ) and the regulation contains the following requirements, inferred to be consistent with all production autos:
"Emissions controls must match the year of the engine used in the composite vehicle. Documented proof of engine year must be provided by the applicant. This information will be verified for accuracy and the presence of all required components will be verified during the inspection. "
" All Light Duty Vehicles with Gasoline Engines were equipped with the controls indicated below (Lt. Duty = below 6001 lbs GVWR till 1978 & below 8501 lbs GVWR after): "
" Year of Engine Emissions Controls Required of All Vehicles That Year
Pre - 1966 None
1966 - 1970 PCV, Variable Advance Distributor
1971 – 1978 PCV, Variable Advance Distributor, Evap. Canister, and Thermostatic Air Cleaner or Air Injection System
1979 – 1988 PCV, Variable Advance Distributor, Evap. Canister, Thermostatic Air Cleaner or Air Injection System, and CAT
1989 – 1995 PCV, Variable Advance Distributor, Evap. Canister, CAT, Computerized Engine Management, O2 sensor
1996 – current PCV, Electronic Spark Control, Evap. Canister, CAT, Closed Loop Computerized Engine Management, O2 sensors, Fuel Injection "
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08-11-2008, 08:19 AM
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Thanks, Don. I'll print out your post and use it for future reference.
Mike
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08-11-2008, 09:06 AM
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Don,
Do they also require the engine to pass the emission tests for that years set up? I know of one person here that used a 1969 block and he had to have the thermactor air cleaner plus a Carther Carb, I believe it was and it had to pass the emissions for that years engine. The referee here took the engine number year off the block stamp. Also there was some discussion about some Ford engines here with the referee about whether they were from automatic cars or manual transmissions. One kind required an air pump and the other didn't. And I do remember they blocked off the vacuum advance on his distributor and put a sign on the face of the speedometer that his vehicle wasn't to be driven over 60 MPH. Now I don't know if other places in the state are the same or not as they all seem to differ. And every other year he had to go through that until he finally sold the car and bought one with the SB-100 number.
Edit: Also no stroker would even be tested. They had to be completely stock except they would accept tube headers here at this referees.I don't know if the same aplies all over the state or not as it seems to change from location to location.
Ron
Last edited by Ron61; 08-11-2008 at 09:15 AM..
Reason: To add information
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08-11-2008, 10:41 AM
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Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
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Ron:
" Do they also require the engine to pass the emission tests for that years set up "
No, in 2007 the CT General Assembly included in the annual DMV Bill an emissions " testing " exemption specifically for all Composites, CT designation for kit cars and replicas. The emissions exemption on testing is still in place.
The initial explanation, yet to be verified, is the Federal EPA is mandating to the state EPA/DMV , the emissions systems and hardware must still be installed. When the emissions testing exemption was unanimously approved by the CT General Assembly Transportation Committee with full support from the co-chairs, there was no mention of still requiring the emissions hardware/systems. The CT hobbyist, CT Council of Car Clubs, and CT businesses, ERA & Vintage Motorsports,( BackDraft Racing ) that testified at a public hearing for the emissions testing exemption were not aware of the direction the Federal EPA is taking.
The new requirement was published and effective as of August 1, no advance notice and no grandfather clause for builds currently in progress by either the hobbyist or turn key businesses.
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08-11-2008, 11:37 AM
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Don,
Well at least that is good they don't have to pass the emission test like here. It is really getting hard up in this area to even find pumps and other smog equipment for the older engines that had it, let alone find any that will work. The filter canisters and such are all but impossible to find from what some of the people are saying, so they have just given up on building a car or are going to try and get one of the SB-100 numbers. We used to have around 12/15 Cobras in this area and I only know of 4 now and none of them are hardly ever driven at all. The summer heat here is just not good for driving a roadster type car.
Ron
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