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Detroit Bill 05-06-2015 07:41 AM

Mark III Build
 
I had ordered a Superformance MKIII on January 22, 2015. It is now in transit across the Ocean.

My goal for the car is not to appear "real" but to appeal to me. I also like the turns and will likely take it out on some tracks and try some autocross.

For the Chassis I ordered:

Dark gray with black stripes
Tonneau cover (no soft top)
Polished Stainless Quicklifts
Driver and Passenger Roll bar
Silver Ceramic Headers
Black Ceramic Side Pipes
Stainless Surge tank
Standard Size foot box (fits FE)
Glove Box
Leather Steering Wheel
Delete rims

The car is going to be assembled by Olthoff racing in NC. I was going to do it myself but the season is short here in Michigan and with a car of this nature I did not think a learning curve was a good thing. I would like the suspension dialed in by someone who has lots of experience. My thoughts are there will be plenty of opportunity to work on it.

I am going to have them swap out the roll bars for their roll bars. They are taller so they are above a helmeted drivers head. They have a thicker wall thickness. They are more vertical than standard. Some tracks will not let you play if the roll bar is not above the drivers head.

Part of their install kit is urethane motor and trans mounts.

I am going to have them add urethane sway bar bushings.

I ordered wheels from Bob at Vintage. I had him powder coat them a satin black, on the dull side.
They will have Michelin Pilot Sport 2's 335/30/18 in the rear and 275/35/18 in the front.

For the Trans I ordered a Tremec TKO 600 with .82 5th gear from Liberty Gear here in MI. it includes:
•Bronze Shift Fork Pads
•Surface Enhancement Processed Hubs & Sliders
•Internal Shift Linkage Upgrade
•Carbon Fiber Blocking Rings—2nd, 3rd & 4th Gear
•Liberty's Exclusive Threaded Front Cluster Bearing Support
• Pro 5.0 Shifter.

It should shift as good as a TKO600 can shift.

I went with Barry Rabotnick at Survival Motorsports for the engine. I will include a few photos of the engine in process but the details will have to wait for another post when I have more time.

Now some photos from South Africa
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...br8smM2-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...qrZG87n-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...SKMNtsZ-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...xBttdW8-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...JjgSk6F-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...XXhqBPN-XL.jpg

Some Photos from MI
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...BcSdNBM-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...zg3xN2q-XL.jpg
http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...wPgJkZV-XL.jpg

Detroit Bill 05-06-2015 07:43 AM

Reserved for Engine Details
 
The engine is a Side Oiler Garage aluminum FE block with a Scat Forged Crank, Scat H beam Rods, 482 cubic inches. Side Oiler are the people from Genesis reborn. I am told they changed the way they are pouring the blocks and the castings look very good. The compression target is 10.8 to one. Barry is going to use his Survival FElony heads port matched but not ported, 2.200/1.710 valves.

The cam will be a hydraulic roller 242/248@.50 643/637 with 110 lobe separation.

I wanted to go with a Blue Thunder dual plane but none are available. That leads me to a Edelbrock RPM manifold. Very similar performance wise but the Blue Thunder has an oil filler hole in the front which can be used for a breather so you can have valve covers with no holes. I want a PCV system to keep oil mist in the engine bay to a minimum. Barry is going to mill a hole in the back of the RPM manifold for the PCV basket.

The pan is going to be a Moroso road race pan with baffles and trap doors to keep the oil in the pickup area.

For a carb we are going with a Quick Fuel Q-850 Black Diamond. The Black Diamond designation is a magic coating that is supposed to drop the fuel temperature by 6%. It is also resistant to chemical and might look better longer. Certainly not an original look but but I am building it for me. With the under hood temps I thought I would hedge my bet. Also in keeping with my road course thinking I am having the custom shop at Quick Fuel put in wedge shaped floats so in a sustained turn the sloshing fuel does not starve the engine for fuel.

Ignition will be a MSD AL6, I went to that level because I want the rev limiter. For a vehicle that is easy to spin the wheels that is likely a good investment.

I am on the fence for valve covers. I wanted chrome Pent Roof with no holes. Because the Blue Thunder intake is not available that is not possible. I am either going to go with Chrome Pent roof valve covers with holes or Blue Thunder bead blasted competition valve covers. Again not original but a good look and easy enough to change later.
http://www.survivalmotorsports.com/i...alve_Cover.jpg

The target for this engine is 600/600 with a flat curve. Barry is confident he can achieve that with his heads without porting. If that is true they are pretty good in their stock configuration which was his goal. Something between a stock Edelbrock head and a ported Edelbrock head. The head can still be ported to achieve bigger numbers.

Maybe Barry will chime in with more information.

Detroit Bill 05-06-2015 07:49 AM

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cobrajeff 05-06-2015 08:45 AM

Looks like you are well on your way to getting a fabulous machine!

Jeff

DWRAT 05-06-2015 05:45 PM

WOW, we need motor details for sure...
You may want to check out the Cobra Valley sway bars if your gonna track play much. Cobra Valley's R/T Street & Racing Sway Bar Package

Mark IV 05-06-2015 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobrajeff (Post 1347566)
Looks like you are well on your way to getting a fabulous machine!

Jeff

Says the Ex-Michigan citizen!

Sure, retire from Ford at a good pension and then flee to the warm area!

Jeff, I am still waiting for either the XD Cobra or the Cougar II to show at my place as promised.......................

Detroit Bill 05-07-2015 08:51 AM

I updated the engine information.

buddyg 05-07-2015 09:42 AM

Nice build! When do you expect completion?

Morris 05-07-2015 09:52 AM

Bill you might want to review the black plastic hose you have for cool air.......under the front fender......not good...

Morris

Detroit Bill 05-07-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddyg (Post 1347682)
Nice build! When do you expect completion?

I expect it to be complete 2 weeks ago!

It is looking like mid June if nothing goes wrong.

Detroit Bill 05-07-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris (Post 1347684)
Bill you might want to review the black plastic hose you have for cool air.......under the front fender......not good...

Morris

What would you suggest? Kirkham does the same thing.

Mark IV 05-07-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morris (Post 1347684)
Bill you might want to review the black plastic hose you have for cool air.......under the front fender......not good...

Morris

This has been used on 3000+ SPFs to date and I am not aware of any concerns. What do think is the problem with the black plastic?

Detroit Bill 05-07-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark IV (Post 1347700)
This has been used on 3000+ SPFs to date and I am not aware of any concerns. What do think is the problem with the black plastic?

I suspect I mentioned I wanted to take it on a track and Morris have a very serious track Kirkham. Take a look at the photos in his gallery.

vatdevil 05-07-2015 12:43 PM

Couple suggestions. If you plan on track use, upgrade the brakes, springs, and shocks. Dennis offers several options. Factory setup isn't for track and autox. I've found car handles best for autoX with rear sway bar disconnected, hooks better and you can use more of that power.

vatdevil 05-07-2015 12:48 PM

If you're upgrading swarbars, the Cobra Valley ones are great because of the solid end links and adjustability.

Detroit Bill 05-07-2015 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vatdevil (Post 1347702)
Couple suggestions. If you plan on track use, upgrade the brakes, springs, and shocks. Dennis offers several options. Factory setup isn't for track and autox. I've found car handles best for autoX with rear sway bar disconnected, hooks better and you can use more of that power.

I think I am going to start slow and see what happens. If it turns out I go to a lot of track events I'll start looking into upgrading the suspension.

jeffgrice 05-08-2015 05:07 AM

Bill - stunning Cobra!!

Jeff

STEVE-O 05-08-2015 05:23 AM

Nice car but should have went with the blue with white stripes. More of an iconic color combination and better for resale if that ever happens.

Detroit Bill 05-08-2015 05:45 AM

Interesting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by STEVE-O (Post 1347752)
Nice car but should have went with the blue with white stripes. More of an iconic color combination and better for resale if that ever happens.

The color combination "in my head" was blue with white stripes. That is the most common color combination, as I said I built this to appeal to me. Certainly not for resale, make it right for the next guy?

This is the car that inspired the look I am going for.

http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...rFXPt2Z-XL.jpg

I went with this rim in this color/sheen

http://bill-stan.smugmug.com/photos/...-fJwc6ZC-L.jpg

vatdevil 05-08-2015 07:33 AM

Great look....and you'll appreciate not having to clean the black rims as much. I also
run the 18s in that width and its looks mean.


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