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Old 03-11-2018, 08:30 AM
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Default Shell Valley question

I'm looking at a '67 Cobra listed with buyavette.net. The ad says it's a Shell Valley build but the Mfg. tag shows "Shelby American, Inc.." Did or does Shell Valley have any affiliation with Shelby American?
Also, it has a 390 cu. in. with a 4-speed. Any comment on having a 4-speed Cobra?
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I can't answer the question about it being manufactured by Shelby American but I don't think Shell Valley is like Superformance and is recognized by Shelby. Others can answer that. But there is definitely nothing wrong with having a 4 speed transmission as that is what the originals had. I know several people who have 4 speeds and a few that have automatics.

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Just remember that these cars are REPLICAs. People put all types of things on these cars to make them look like a real Cobra built by Shelby America. I have seen them have the Shelby tag with the Vin number of the original car that they are trying to duplicate.

This is fine if you are only trying to go the Nth degree to make it a perfect replica of a particular original, but are not trying to fool someone with bad intentions. The problem is that after these cars get sold a few times, unknowing or unscrupulous people misrepresent what the car is.

No wonder Mr. Shelby got annoyed and took legal action. I'll stop here, as the previous sentence could be debated forever, and we will never settle anything.
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No problem with a four speed in a cobra replica. I would suggest going to see it and go for a ride. See how the car feels and handles. Quality wise, there is a wide range within each manufacturer from pieces of junk to spectacular builds. A lot depends on the skill level of the person putting it together. Buying a cobra unseen is risky, especially if you are not buying from the original owner and can ask specific questions about the build.
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Badges can be bought on Ebay. It's decorative and that's all.
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Just saw the picture of the badge in question, it's a replica Shelby American type badge with the worst frame number stamping job I've ever seen. It should make any purchaser wary of what else is bogus on this car.
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Default '67 Shell Valley ???

All the info is really appreciated. If these guy's at buyavette.net will give me a fair trade, I planned on having the car inspected by a licensed appraiser. They list the car as a Shell Valley even though it shows the "Shelby" vin plate. The 390 and 4-speed don't bother me and after reading all the threads on them, I'm less worried about getting a lemon. If anyone else takes a look at the ad, I'd sure like some more input. I'm a Vette and street rod owner and am not well versed in "Cobra." Thanks again, Ron
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Is this the car:
http://www.buyavette.net/1967%20Shel...067-115956.php

If so, let me assure you: This car is NOT A SHELBY! Those plates can be acquired on the street and attached to anything. The number on that plate is not a CSX number. Where did you see a CSXnnnn stamping? Understand that it is a Cobra replica but not a Shelby car of any kind. The dash is a dead giveaway. This isn't a barn find waiting to fund your retirement account Is it a Shell Valley? Probably, but there are lots of Cobra replica builders out there so find an inspector that is well versed in the lesser known replicas.
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The emergency brake is in the wrong place to be an original Shelby Cobra 427 SC. It should be in the side of the transmission tunnel not the top...
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Shell Valley is a very good company and a very good car. It's quality, just make sure you or someone on your behalf does a wiggle check of everything to make sure the builder didn't take any short cuts. If it's done right it'll be worth it. 4 speed will make your foot box a little more crowded than an automatic but most Cobras are 4 or 5speeds

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This plate stands for Shell Valley hence the SV at the start of the stamping. As for it being bad stamping, some of the originals were worse than that right from Shelby in L.A.



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That being said it should have a Shell Valley tag and not use a Shelby American tag which causes confusion especially for the original poster.
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I agree with you about that but I see them around here all the time with those Shelby tags that they buy blank and then stamp them with whatever they want.

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For $16 plus shipping and 4 rivets, anyone can own an original Cobra as 99% of the public would have no clue as to otherwise "Is that real........" Yup check out the VIN number"


What a sweet deal!!

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For $16 plus shipping and 4 rivets, anyone can own an original Cobra as 99% of the public would have no clue as to otherwise "Is that real........" Yup check out the VIN number"


What a sweet deal!!

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Is It Real Or Is It Memorex?
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I have a Unique 427 - Black / Black 428 2x4bbls / top loader 4 sp / jag rear end - sorted and nice for the same price ! Just bought an ERA !
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The car is certainly a Shell Valley. The tag is certainly an internet-sourced novelty item. I have a 25 year old home-built Shell Valley car that I still love to drive. They're decent cars, especially for the price. Judging from the photos, I'd say the price is in the general ballpark (maybe a little high), but only a test drive can tell you what you really need to know. Providing that 390 is well-built, it is fine choice for that car. The 4-speed is no big issue if the rear axle ratio is appropriate. You can enter the Cobra hobby for not a lot of money with this car. If you later want something more sophisticated, there are plenty of pricier cars available all the time. The guys at Shell Valley are good guys, too, in case you ever need anything.
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I have a Shell Valley Street model and like it much better than my Superformance SC......
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I have a Unique 427 - Black / Black 428 2x4bbls / top loader 4 sp / jag rear end - sorted and nice for the same price ! Just bought an ERA !
For the same price as the Shell Valley, this Unique is a smoking deal! Not at all a knock on Shell Valley, but an FE powered Unique with their independent rear suspension and more accurate looking body/stance is a heck of a good buy comparatively speaking.
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They safety-wired the spinners; however, they appear not to be knock-off rims, but bolt-ons with cover plates. Always interesting when they tell you up front that, "it will not last long." !!
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