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"Halibrand Cobra II wheels in......MAGNESIUM
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I am posting this for the benefit of the internet challenged Mr. Fran Kress. I have NO financial interest in the sale of these wheels, HOWEVER I will highly recommend his products. I know he has been working with the foundry on these wheels for a couple of years and is now ready to offer them. Fran has had wheels done in the past and they are nice. Please direct all questions to Fran. His email to me follows:
I am getting Mag Super Cobra Wheels Made. The real deal, in MAG. Any interest? Please No Tire Kickers. Buyers must supply me with their back spacing requirements in writing and pay 50% up front. NO PAYPAL - Cash or check only Call me 412-441-5750 Fran -- Fran Kress Kress Shirts & Kress Motorsport Shelby, Cobra, GT40, Cars, Parts, & Apparel 412-441-5750 Kress Cobra and Shelby Mustang Parts, Accessories and apparel |
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Otherwise, I guess I shouldn't contact him:LOL: |
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No idea.......contact Fran for details. I never even thought to ask!
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Well, RodKnock?
Here's your big chance! Are you gonna do it? |
We've run "this" up the flag pole a few times. :rolleyes:
He'll get the same 3 people interested, except that Rodney has himself a set of REAL Halibrands now, so he may or may not be in for a 2nd set of mags. It will probably be me and Lew again. Oh joy. **) Last time Fran advertised he was making mags, I believe the price was right around $4,400/set. I think. |
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They are perrrddy though.:p
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wheel quality
The one in that picture looks like from the small batch of wheels that were made by M&A Castings and sold out the "back door" using Halibrand's patterns around 8 years ago (Halibrand was not pleased). The machining/details were not worked out at that time, as new patterns and machining programs were developed to make the wheels more accurate relative to the ones made in the 90's. This "work in process" state can partially be seen by the step on the inner diameter of the dish where it transitions to the casting. Halibrand never fully completed development to go into regular production again, although the outstanding issues were supposedly not too difficult to resolve.
Availability of new correct magnesium Cobra II wheels would be nice, I would get a set myself for safety in track events or other anticipated severe usage, keeping the original wheels in storage. However, I would want to see, in detail, what the new wheels look like in finished condition, front, back and sides, before putting money down (getting the wheels right involves repetitive samples and comparisons to the originals). M&A had to make new patterns, because Halibrand took the other ones back, so everything is basically starting from scratch, although M&A has the advantage of having make them in the past. |
accuracy
One other thing potential buyers should be aware of, mostly of concern to original car owners, is that any of these new wheels will not be exact to the original 60's Halibrand wheels because of regulatory changes since these were first made. In order to meet the current requirements, the lip areas are different, which shows up in somewhere around a 3/4" difference in wheel OD (can't remember now which was worse, front or rear).
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You Go First, No You Go...
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Yes, the entire thread seems odd - no price, they really aren't Halibrand's and everyone seems to be stroking each other about possibilities versus reality.
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As for "stroking", I'm not sure what that means in the context of this thread. And it adds nothing to this thread. Reminds me of me. |
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So you propose to have me write a check for $5,000 to someone I don't know and without any sort of paperwork trail or story. And DMXF hasn't even offered his services. Uh huh. Sure.
And is $5,000 the right number? What if the final number is $10,000, what then? I have two sets of Trigos, so I'm not desperate. |
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Maybe I'll send that $5,000 into the stock market since it's now at it's 1989 high and it keeps going up. Lots of room to run. ;) |
Car parts deals
Patrick, I appreciate your confidence in me, but I think I've had enough of car parts deals. I had an arms length agreement with the owner of Halibrand back then to work with their engineer and provide all the details to get their new wheels to be much closer to original than they had previously been. In exchange for my help I was to be able to purchase a half dozen sets at the previous market rates they had been receiving and these sets were to be made to exact as original, incl the old lip design, to be marked on the invoice as "off road use only". I spent many hours sending them photos of my wheels and taking extensive measurements, going back and forth marking up their drawings (virtually nothing was correct as it was). They sent me a front and rear machined sample using the new patterns that still needed major machining setup/dimensional adjustments and I provided extensive feedback on what to address. Near the end of the process Halibrand just said they need to come back to the project later on and left me just hanging - then they proceeded to sell a batch of the wheels to the public with many of the errors still present. I'm not looking to throw my time away in these types of dealings.
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