Goodyear Billboards balancing

[RICK LAKE]

Ernie There are about 6 companies with 15" tires The only problem is the speed ratings are all in the 105 range. Dunlop GT Qualifier 295/50R15 $100.00, GY EagleII tires 295/50R15 $125.00, Mikey Thompson sell 4 different styles of tires. The ET street radials come in 315/60R15,295/65R15,325/50R15. Hoosier also sell DOT Quick time tires in many sizes. The look of a GY billboard tires looks great on any cobra. You guys know you can always buy another tire more to your liking, put the Black wall side out, and stencil in the letters on the tires. Takes about 15 minutes per tire after you make the stencil. Just a Thought. Rick L.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

You guys know you can always buy another tire more to your liking, put the Black wall side out, and stencil in the letters on the tires. Takes about 15 minutes per tire after you make the stencil. Just a Thought. Rick L.

That's illegal. Man law.

[jmimac351]

I bought my BBs from the distributor in Daytona. They mounted them for me but the balancing machine was at a race that day. I haven't had them balanced yet. They seem fine around town but get up to 80mph or so and they do vibrate quite a bit. Go figure.

[RICK LAKE]

jmimac351 3 things JM First off do you know that those tires you are driving on without a balance are PER WEARING out your drive train? If the worst of the vibration is in the front end, wheel bearings, tierod ends, the rack and pinion itself,( internal gears ) the steering system up to your hands. If its in the rearend, depending on the rearend if solid axle both rear axle bearings, the axle tubes, over time the spider gears in the carrier. If a jag rearend the outter hub bearings, and the u joints to them. 2 nd thing is that you are dangerous enought to drive a car with this problem at high speeds, you said you drove 80 mph and the problem is worse. If you are on a race track at this time, Fine. If you are out on a street or highway with other people around you, and cobras are people magnets, doing 70 mph. It's very possible the a tire could seperate and you have one hell of a ride to look forward too, I just hope that you take no one with you. Not sure what you are worth to your wife and kids, your car is worth from 40-60k dollars and all the time and work you put into it. The worst part is you are only worth 1,000.00 dollars. This is the cost of a TOP set of tires for your car. I am not so worried about you but someone else that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time. As far as stenciling tires that a choice, I do think the safety factor comes into play, or maybe a class action suit again GY for maken poor tires may change there way of thinking. This kind of thing requires the DEATH of about 5-10 people before anything is done. The last thing Man rules, a statement where some men with small brains, big balls, and going through there middle age adjustments have as an excuse for being dumb. I have 2 out of the 3 things listed above, small brain and middle age, I am just not foolish enough to risk someone elses life for $1,000.00 dollars. Have a good day JM. Ps I have seen over the last 10 years more people get hurt from the don't worry about it thinking. 1 dead, 1 burnt over 20% of his body, mostly hands feet, arms, face and neck, 3 others ending up in hospitals for weeks. 1 guy was in traction for 8 weeks. Broken back. Have a nice day JM Rick L. New rule, get smarter everyday. I at lease try.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

jmimac351 3 things JM First off do you know that those tires you are driving on without a balance are PER WEARING out your drive train? If the worst of the vibration is in the front end, wheel bearings, tierod ends, the rack and pinion itself,( internal gears ) the steering system up to your hands. If its in the rearend, depending on the rearend if solid axle both rear axle bearings, the axle tubes, over time the spider gears in the carrier. If a jag rearend the outter hub bearings, and the u joints to them. 2 nd thing is that you are dangerous enought to drive a car with this problem at high speeds, you said you drove 80 mph and the problem is worse. If you are on a race track at this time, Fine. If you are out on a street or highway with other people around you, and cobras are people magnets, doing 70 mph. It's very possible the a tire could seperate and you have one hell of a ride to look forward too, I just hope that you take no one with you. Not sure what you are worth to your wife and kids, your car is worth from 40-60k dollars and all the time and work you put into it. The worst part is you are only worth 1,000.00 dollars. This is the cost of a TOP set of tires for your car. I am not so worried about you but someone else that ends up in the wrong place at the wrong time. As far as stenciling tires that a choice, I do think the safety factor comes into play, or maybe a class action suit again GY for maken poor tires may change there way of thinking. This kind of thing requires the DEATH of about 5-10 people before anything is done. The last thing Man rules, a statement where some men with small brains, big balls, and going through there middle age adjustments have as an excuse for being dumb. I have 2 out of the 3 things listed above, small brain and middle age, I am just not foolish enough to risk someone elses life for $1,000.00 dollars. Have a good day JM. Ps I have seen over the last 10 years more people get hurt from the don't worry about it thinking. 1 dead, 1 burnt over 20% of his body, mostly hands feet, arms, face and neck, 3 others ending up in hospitals for weeks. 1 guy was in traction for 8 weeks. Broken back. Have a nice day JM Rick L. New rule, get smarter everyday. I at lease try.

Rick, 3 things:

Lighten up, Francis.

Switch to decaf

I plan to get the tires balanced, I just put them on.

Good grief.

[jmimac351]

[JCoop]

I have little stickers on my cars that say "Look all You Want but Please Don't Touch".

I'm changing them to "Touch my Car and I'll Kill Ya"

[RICK LAKE]

jmimac351 JM I only went by what you wrote on the thread. This is not a game when playing with a cobra. Car or animal. At times the car is both. You said you already tested the speed limit, 80 mph, and found a problem you said nothing about getting the tires balanced. I would have thought when you got the tires mounted this would have been done at this time. With almost 30 years in the auto repair bussiness I have not seen many people buy tires and install them on there cars without a balance. Most also get a wheel alignment. Farmers in my area don't balance tires for the field trucks. This is not a game, and alot of people think it's funny until someone gets hurt or killed. We get NEW people who just brought a cobra and no NOTHING about these cars. Read info here and see you where lucky with your BB tires without a balance done. Next you know someone says JM's car is fine with this being done. Take the car out, open it up and the party is over. I know you where just telling us that on your car the tires are not to bad to drive at low speed. You know this, I know this, but beginners don't. I choked Francis ( SYCO ), 2cups of tea a day for caffeine, Gald you are getting the tires balanced. Have a nice day, enjoy a nice drive in the car. Rick L.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

...put the Black wall side out, and stencil in the letters on the tires. Takes about 15 minutes per tire after you make the stencil.

This is something I might have considered when I was...17.

Someday GY is going to get their act together and make the right DOT, radial-based tire that has "the look." And then we're going to view this archived thread and laugh our ass off.

[jmimac351]

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Jm Read your own writing. They where mounted and NOT balanced, The machines where at the track. You are a dumb ass. When you have been to a couple of funerals for dead friends that think like you, Maybe you will get with the program. I am done with you, Pissed off but on a depends, Lecture people about things, Only things I am 100% sure about. You need to talk to the Smith brothers and learn about your car. You have a long life. HA-HARick L.

[PatBuckley]

You're not alone - I got a similarly idiotic message from him a while back when I called him on another of his inane posts.

He is best ignored.

[Power Surge]

I don't know JM, maybe Rick likes you, and this is his wait of courting?

I posted the same thing as you, before you did, and he never acknoledged my post.

I drove my car for 7000 miles with "unbalanced" Goodyears and never had one problem, other than the resulting vibrations. That's not to say that driving with unbalanced wheels is the best thing to do in the world, but then again, neither is Goodyeat selling crappy out of round wheels.

I've had my car up to 140mph with those wheels, and not once in 7000 miles did I ever feel the balance issue was putting my driver control, or safety at risk.

Vibrations result from frequency. Frequency only happens at certain times. Unbalanced wheels will only vibrate at two points.... the first mph caused by the unbalance, and then again at twice that speed. Obviously most people won't hit that double frequency number. Rick makes it sound like if you drive around with unbalanced wheels, the car is going to shake the entire time you drive it and be dangerous. That statement is untrue and rediculous.

[jmimac351]

Sal, you're a dumbass.

[Silverback51]

One brief comment in Goodyears defense.

These are bias ply, non-DOT rated race tires, never meant to be on the street.

To criticize their problems on the street is a little unfair.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

One brief comment in Goodyears defense.

These are bias ply, non-DOT rated race tires, never meant to be on the street.

To criticize their problems on the street is a little unfair.

I don't think anyone has mentioned any problems related to street use. We are talking about RACE tires that are out of round, hard to balance, and dry cracked. New. Out of the mold.

If anything, a race tire should be built to BETTER tolerances than a street tire.

[jmimac351]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

This is something I might have considered when I was...17.

Someday GY is going to get their act together and make the right DOT, radial-based tire that has "the look." And then we're going to view this archived thread and laugh our ass off.

When I got my tires from the distributor over in Daytona and had them mounted, but not balanced - to the horror of some - I asked the guy why Goodyear didn't make something like the Nitto 555RII. He just shook his head and said that they started to go down that path and had a few tires and then dropped the whole thing. He said they claimed there wasn't enough money in it - which is hard to believe with Kumho, Nitto, Hankook, etc. making them. (Or, maybe they felt they couldn't compete with them.) He then went on to say Goodyear was still in an old, two story factory and was sort of an "old dog" of a company. The point was that they weren't really interested in learning new tricks. After that conversation I wasn't wondering about when we would have a radial version of this tire, but how long it would be before I couldn't get it anymore. He said nothing to indicate they were going away, but a conversation like that doesn't make you think new and better things are coming to the table.

But what do I know...