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Old 04-04-2010, 12:07 AM
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Thanks for the advice.

I've tried to do the external slave with the smallest slave I could find. Just not enough room. I even made a custom length fork, custom bracket. Slave gets too close to the header pipe. No room for a bleeder, or even space to run a hose for a remote bleeder. I've read pros & cons on the internal hydraulic unit and I'm willing to take a chance with it.

My Jag rear end is 3.31:1 and the .8 overdrive seems like my choice too.

I just have to figure out what shifter option I need to take. My shifter is 9.5" From the bell housing/trans mounting surface and in IMHO the location couldn't be more perfect & ergonomic!. 7" moves it too far forward, but I can have a shifter stick that bends backward. I have to seriously start making my measurements and see what conflicts I have. The 12.68 shifter location moves it too far back and I don't really like the curved forward look that the original had.

I love the location of my Super T-10 shifter and so I have to come to terms that a new location that may not be as visually pleasing.

Thanks for your comments,

Arthur

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lal Naja Art Have you looked at the super richmond 5 speed? The shift location is in the same place as the trans you have. The trans mount is 1" back of the trans you have. If you are looking to use the orginial shifter, it works nice. If racing I run a short shifter to the trans. This trans is good for the 600/600 rating.
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lal Naja Art Have you looked at the super richmond 5 speed? The shift location is in the same place as the trans you have. The trans mount is 1" back of the trans you have. If you are looking to use the orginial shifter, it works nice. If racing I run a short shifter to the trans. This trans is good for the 600/600 rating.
Sooner or later Rick you're going to get someone to buy one of them darn Richmonds in spite of their price
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He'd make a good salesman wouldn't he?
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Yep, dealership work's in the toilet these days so pimpin' Richmonds adds to the kitty.
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Arthur,

For what it's worth, I think I can do a mid shift TKO 600 with the shifter in the spot that you need it. We'd have to use a McLeod shifter that's got a custom offset.

On the flip side, have you driven a car with a 427 style shifter location? You may like it after you get used to it.
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Arthur,

For what it's worth, I think I can do a mid shift TKO 600 with the shifter in the spot that you need it. We'd have to use a McLeod shifter that's got a custom offset.

On the flip side, have you driven a car with a 427 style shifter location? You may like it after you get used to it.
I have not driven a car with the 427 style shifter. I'm sure I could get used to it but I think the look is awkward. By mid shifter do you mean the 12.68 dimension?

I need to know more about the McLeod shifter and get some measurements to plot exactly how this is all going to work out.

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Old 04-04-2010, 09:58 AM
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lal Naja Art Have you looked at the super richmond 5 speed? The shift location is in the same place as the trans you have. The trans mount is 1" back of the trans you have. If you are looking to use the orginial shifter, it works nice. If racing I run a short shifter to the trans. This trans is good for the 600/600 rating.
No, I have not considered the Richmond. I think the external shifter linkage could present a whole new set of problems. In my application and you can see my trans/Hurst shifter on page three of my Photo Album in my Public Profile. It's mounted with a custom bracket to bring it forward. The Butler has the engine/trans pushed back as far as it can physically go. I guess I could create something that would do the trick, but internal shifter looks like a better engineered solution?

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Hi Arthur,

I make a few external slave kits that are very low profile to the block or the tranny depending on the trans & release setup used.
I also am a Tremec Elite dealer and have all the Tremec transmissions and related products to install including flywheel, bellhousing & clutch kits.
As for hydraulic throwout bearings, I sell them and stock them too. They do work but the reliability factor is why I make external kits.
The midshifter at 12.65" and front shifter are available with offsets to fit more applications.

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Thanks for the advice.

I've tried to do the external slave with the smallest slave I could find. Just not enough room. I even made a custom length fork, custom bracket. Slave gets too close to the header pipe. No room for a bleeder, or even space to run a hose for a remote bleeder. I've read pros & cons on the internal hydraulic unit and I'm willing to take a chance with it.

My Jag rear end is 3.31:1 and the .8 overdrive seems like my choice too.

I just have to figure out what shifter option I need to take. My shifter is 9.5" From the bell housing/trans mounting surface. 7" moves it too far forward but I can have a shifter stick that bends backward. I have to seriously start making my measurements and see what conflicts I have. The 12.68 shifter location moves it too far back and I don't really like the curved forward look that the original had.

I love the location of my Super T-10 shifter and so I have to come to terms that a new location that may not be as visually pleasing.

Thanks for your comments,

Arthur
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Last note, I also am a WD for Richmond for over 20 years and know their product very well. Is this for a Chevy engine?
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Last note, I also am a WD for Richmond for over 20 years and know their product very well. Is this for a Chevy engine?
Yes Mike it is a small block Chevy.

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Hi Arthur,

I make a few external slave kits that are very low profile to the block or the tranny depending on the trans & release setup used.
I also am a Tremec Elite dealer and have all the Tremec transmissions and related products to install including flywheel, bellhousing & clutch kits.
As for hydraulic throwout bearings, I sell them and stock them too. They do work but the reliability factor is why I make external kits.
The midshifter at 12.65" and front shifter are available with offsets to fit more applications.
I guess we need to talk and share technical info. I've looked at your site and have been able to get a lot of info. But I still need to know all the critical stuff.

I sent your company an email the other day stating my situation and my needs. Perhaps I need to change my Bell housing too if mine is not the correct choice.

Arthur
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Thanks for the advice.

I've tried to do the external slave with the smallest slave I could find. Just not enough room. I even made a custom length fork, custom bracket. Slave gets too close to the header pipe. No room for a bleeder, or even space to run a hose for a remote bleeder. I've read pros & cons on the internal hydraulic unit and I'm willing to take a chance with it.

My Jag rear end is 3.31:1 and the .8 overdrive seems like my choice too.

I just have to figure out what shifter option I need to take. My shifter is 9.5" From the bell housing/trans mounting surface. 7" moves it too far forward but I can have a shifter stick that bends backward. I have to seriously start making my measurements and see what conflicts I have. The 12.68 shifter location moves it too far back and I don't really like the curved forward look that the original had.

I love the location of my Super T-10 shifter and so I have to come to terms that a new location that may not be as visually pleasing.

Thanks for your comments,

Arthur
Perhaps I have a bell housing & clutch fork combination that is not totally suitable for my application and that is why I have a space problem for the external slave.

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