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04-10-2006, 07:34 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
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Help Tilton Hydraulic Bearing Info
Hello All,
I would like to know if anyone is using a Tilton Hydraulic Bearing with a CenterForce Lighten Flywheel for a Toploader.
I would like to Verify if I ordered the right Part # for my Hydraulic Bearing. I am about to put the body on and would like to see if I made my calulation correctly. The Part # I purchased was 61-601, but the charts from Tilton do not show it being for a Toploader.
Can someone reply back with a simular set or that can help me on this.
Thanks
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04-10-2006, 08:09 AM
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61-601 is the hydraulic bearing itself, a fairly universal one. Next you need to get the 'base' it goes onto, for the 600 series its a piece that replaces the snout of your transmission and the 61-601 threads onto that.
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04-10-2006, 08:16 AM
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Mike,
I order the base as well which is the 1 for the Toploader. I was just puzzled as to why my measurement suggest this bearing. I wanted to see if other have run into a simular problem.
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04-17-2006, 06:39 PM
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I put one of these on my E-M and wish I would have stuck with a standard clutch throw-out. What a pain.
Steve
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04-18-2006, 07:11 AM
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Steve,
Are you still running the hydraulic or did you switch it out? What problems did you have ?
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04-18-2006, 07:40 AM
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I installed a Tilton hydraulic throw out bearing and I have not had any difficulties at all. I followed the instructions for the initial setup, installed it and basically never touched it since. I am running a 351W, toploader, and a Ford Motorsport clutch and flywheel all inside a Lakewood bellhousing. Routing the hydraulic lines is a bit of a pain when installing the tranny, but other than that it is a great setup.
One thing I did was to run a permanent bleeder line so that I could bleed the system with everything in place, if necessary.
Wayne
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04-18-2006, 07:45 AM
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Thanks Wayne,
Did have to install a pedal stop?
Or were you able to make the adjustments with out it.
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04-18-2006, 11:19 AM
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No pedal stop. I am using the triple Tilton master cylinder setup, one for the clutch, one for the front brakes, and the third for the rear brakes.
As I said ealier, I set up the throw out bearing according to the installation directions, installed the transmission, bled the air out, and have not touched it since. I did remove the transmission once but that had nothing to do with the throw out bearing. The biggest problem I had was feeding the hydraulic hoses out of the Lakewood bellhousing as there is not much room to work.
I think that this is a very good option to either a mechanical or traditional hydraulic clutch system. No rods, levers, or slave cylinders to worry about.
Wayne
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04-18-2006, 11:51 AM
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Thanks for the feed Wayne
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04-19-2006, 02:38 PM
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Wayne,
What bore size of master cylinder did you use?
Scott S
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04-20-2006, 06:05 PM
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Thanks Wayne for the info.
Looks like I am going to have to drill my flywheel to acept the 10.5" clutch as the only patterns it has are for the long style clutches.
My other choice is to make a spacer for the transmision. Going to do some calculations tonight & make a decision. Need to get this done! The weathers great the roads are almost clear & my wild side is starting to itch. Almost time to make some noise.
Thanks again
Craig
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04-21-2006, 07:05 AM
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Craig
I am certainly no expert on flywheels and clutches but be very careful drilling a flywheel. If you are off by even a few thousands of an inch, you will almost certainly have a vibration. If you go this route make sure that it is done by someone that has lots of experience in this area. This is not an easy thing to do. You maybe better off to just buy a new flywheel, more dollars but less problems later on.
Good luck,
Wayne
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