Tko600 Warning!!!!

[RICK LAKE]

Kiesler Nick, I think it's great that Ryan supra make 1300hp, what's the tork? Tork, poor driving habits,gear sets out of spec, too tight or loose, wrong fluids in trans, poor machine work from CNC operators, and the list goes on. How much of a pain in the A$$ is it to install a Getrag trans behind any Ford or GM product. There are options for the tko500 and 600, this should be included with the price of the trans. By the time you add the custom parts and machining to the trans you are at the same price as G-Force. G-force has 2-3 options for a trans, Tork tube, and 200+ gears choices. G-force has run in Pro Stock, Have not seen any TKO's yet. I have two shifters for my car, a vertigate for 1/4 mile and a short shifter for autocross and road racing. Every trans has it's limits and the price different between the G-force and tko600 with the bells and whisles added, I stay with G. G-force has a kit for TKO,$2,500.00 to improve this trans and blueprint it. I have seen Vipers break this trans with 600 hp and other drive with 750 hp and have no problem. You are in bussiness to sell products for companys, How many time have you had the stones to tell the truth about a product that is not up to the mark. I am a mechanic for 25+ years. There is alot of bull out there, there does seam to be an alignment problem in the pictures above, I am gald you helped out Fordfan69, problem is how many others are out there with the same problem and when there's breaks what happens???? I have never heard of a company having a RECALL for defective parts unless lawsuits and death happens. Rick L

[Buzz]

T-O-R-Q-U-E !!! dammit

Btw, I agree about G-Force.

[Fordfan69]

Ed (eschaider),

Have you checked you gearbox yet? Has anyone been able to open theirs up yet to see if this is a tko600 - wide problem? I don't see how anyone else's box could be any different than mine, being the way it's designed.

Greg.

[keislerNick]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

Kiesler Nick, I think it's great that Ryan supra make 1300hp, what's the tork? Tork, poor driving habits,gear sets out of spec, too tight or loose, wrong fluids in trans, poor machine work from CNC operators, and the list goes on. How much of a pain in the A$$ is it to install a Getrag trans behind any Ford or GM product. There are options for the tko500 and 600, this should be included with the price of the trans. By the time you add the custom parts and machining to the trans you are at the same price as G-Force. G-force has 2-3 options for a trans, Tork tube, and 200+ gears choices. G-force has run in Pro Stock, Have not seen any TKO's yet. I have two shifters for my car, a vertigate for 1/4 mile and a short shifter for autocross and road racing. Every trans has it's limits and the price different between the G-force and tko600 with the bells and whisles added, I stay with G. G-force has a kit for TKO,$2,500.00 to improve this trans and blueprint it. I have seen Vipers break this trans with 600 hp and other drive with 750 hp and have no problem. You are in bussiness to sell products for companys, How many time have you had the stones to tell the truth about a product that is not up to the mark. I am a mechanic for 25+ years. There is alot of bull out there, there does seam to be an alignment problem in the pictures above, I am gald you helped out Fordfan69, problem is how many others are out there with the same problem and when there's breaks what happens???? I have never heard of a company having a RECALL for defective parts unless lawsuits and death happens. Rick L

On a side note ryans car made 990.43 ft lbs of torque off the bottle on this inline 6 cyclinder. But I agree with you g-force makes a great race trans that is well known in the market. As far as your TKO goes for those that want to use them for racing Pro-Motion Perfromance Powertrain sets the TKO trans up for race application. Recently in 06 they won the NMRA Real Street Championships with a TKO 500 trans running 9sec times so you and that is with a stock gear set in it but it is pro shifted with the cage.

[eschaider]

The ET of the vehicle is not necessarily indicative of the load the transmission sees. A light car can turn identical ETs to a heavy car and the heavy car will always load the drive train more. In fact the heavy car can turn slower ETs and still load the drive train more. Time to get over the ET thing.

Ed

[eschaider]

Greg,

I have not checked my new in the box 4617 yet. I've been on the road but will return next week and I will check.

Ed

[keislerNick]

Originally Posted by eschaider

The ET of the vehicle is not necessarily indicative of the load the transmission sees. A light car can turn identical ETs to a heavy car and the heavy car will always load the drive train more. In fact the heavy car can turn slower ETs and still load the drive train more. Time to get over the ET thing.

Ed

Ed, I agree with you 100 percent thats why I posted that the weight of the car on the scales the day they ran the car. 3550 lbs but your right about weight it definately compounds the load.

[Fordfan69]

Hi Fellas,

I have received a response regarding the 3rd gear misalignment issue. I would like your responses (especially Transmission-trades people) :

"Greg,
If you look at the main shaft gears, second, third, and fourth, the tooth contact patterns are to the tooth “root” and all three contact patterns are centered on the main shaft gear teeth."

My response to him was:

"Yes, Jeff, I can see that, but the mis-alignment still reduces the contact area to a significant degree. Even though the contact patch is centered and deep, this should still result in reduced torque capacity, from what I suspect. If this is not correct, please give me a detailed explanation as to why this is not the case. I am waiting soley on your response in order to seal this tranny up and reinstall.

Thank you Jeff,

Greg. "

What do you guys think? I feel he didn't address the real issue of the gear mis-alignment. I understand that mesh pattern plays an important role, but I feel that the mis-alignment is a big issue also.

Thanks for your input, opinions.

Ed (eshaifer) - I anxiously await the results of the inspection of your tranny when you get back. - thanks.

Cheers guys -
Greg.