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12-04-2009, 08:12 AM
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BTW, I bought my setup through Redline Weber. I gave them my "very
basic" engine specs & they set up all the jetting for me. They were pretty much dead on. I Will Called them so I don't know how they are with shipping. The stock linkage they shipped with the unit was useless but a new linkage setup isn't that expensive.
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what linkage did you end up using ?
Z. Ray
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12-04-2009, 09:04 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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I bought a center bell crank from Pierce & a few other odds & ends. I'll try to post a picture tonight. This set up allows for a more even pull through the range than the linkage that pulls from on bank to the other.
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what linkage did you end up using ?
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12-04-2009, 07:08 PM
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what linkage did you end up using ?
Z. Ray
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This is essentially how you want to be set up. Pivoting from the center point to get the carb banks to open at the same ratio through the range. Some of the setups you can buy have a link from one bank to the other which doesn't even come close to opening the banks at the same rate. If your carbs are all facing the same way, ie. fuel lines all connecting on the driver side of all the carbs, then you can push the banks from one to the next. Otherwise you need to figure out a linkage that works both banks in unison like this. I'll try to find another linkage setup I've seen & Post it....If I can find it...
THis is the bad linkage setup-->
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12-07-2009, 02:49 AM
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In theory this setup is ok, but it would still have uneven throttle angles bank to bank.
The difference in the angles of the links coming off the bellcrank is the dead giveaway.
And the links are different lengths as well.
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12-07-2009, 07:26 AM
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Agreed, It is not perfect. But much closer than the previous. To make matters even more stupid the mounting point is not exactly centered either.  Can anyone explain why they would cast the center mounting point "Off Center"?
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12-03-2009, 07:17 PM
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Have you considered the Dynatek Racing EFI Weber look alike system?
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12-03-2009, 07:36 PM
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I interacted with Inglese and almost pulled the trigger on a set of 48 IDAs from them. However, their terrible customer service and higher prices led me to steer clear of them.
I've had good luck with Pierce Manifolds and purchased a set of 58mm IDAs from Berg.
Incidentally, I believe Weber carbs are now made by a few different sources (I believe some are made in the US and others in Spain). Perhaps other guys can chime in on this and comment on whether or not there is a difference in quality.
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Inglese seemed a bit steep at the time I bought also.
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12-04-2009, 08:37 AM
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These guys are good: www.carburetion.com
They have a vacuum chamber manifold for those of you with power brakes...
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12-04-2009, 08:59 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS427, 408w, 48IDA Webers, TKO 600, 9" Currie 4-link 4.11 rear
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Well racetep.com said "they will not be undersold" so I will give them the price of the kit I submitted originally in this thread from http://www.carburetion.com and see if they will match it. I could go will call it as well. A few hundred dollars is a few hundred dollars which I can use getting this tuned up or getting the linkage. |
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Well racetep.com said "they will not be undersold" so I will give them the price of the kit I submitted originally in this thread from http://www.carburetion.com and see if they will match it. I could go will call it as well. A few hundred dollars is a few hundred dollars which I can use getting this tuned up or getting the linkage. |
carburetion.com can do the center bell crank for you. You can also bargain with them. I got them to do the vacuum chamber for free. Ask for Bob.
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Well racetep.com said "they will not be undersold" so I will give them the price of the kit I submitted originally in this thread from http://www.carburetion.com and see if they will match it. I could go will call it as well. A few hundred dollars is a few hundred dollars which I can use getting this tuned up or getting the linkage. |
carburetion.com can do the center bell crank for you. You can also bargain with them. I got them to do the vacuum chamber for free. Ask for Bob.
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12-04-2009, 09:02 AM
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Webers, once set up properly, will be rock solid reliable and have many performance advantages including better throttle response, more HP and much smoother idle with a big cam. If you find a retailer with good customer support I wouldnt be the slightest bit nervous about upgrading and getting them tuned. If you want a second opinion on a good baseline setup PM me with your engine specs and I'll get some choke/jet/etube combo specs from someone who can tune webers in his sleep.
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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For a show car you need these new polished and chromed 48's. I will sell them seperately from the small block manifold/parts:
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12-04-2009, 12:27 PM
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If I am not mistaken, those are for a 302/289, correct?
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12-04-2009, 12:36 PM
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Yes, that is correct. But the carbs, 48 IDA's, are the same for both small block and big block, just a matter of different chokes, jets.
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12-05-2009, 09:28 PM
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The center point is called the bell crank, correct?
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12-05-2009, 09:34 PM
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One last thing - I have seen throttle cable kits for these, and I have a throttle cable now. Any problems using a throttle cable?
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