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				11-19-2009, 01:24 PM
			
			
			
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					Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Suburbs of Chicago, 
						IL Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft#357, 392CI Ford Racing, 459hp, 455ft/lbs  , TKO 500, 3.43 Gears, Ceramic Coated Headers, Victor Jr. 750cfm, 17in Halibrand wheels, Sterling Gray/Silver Stripes, Gray Leather, Nitto NT05 
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				 BackDraft side pipe hp/backpressure mystery to be solved Saturday 
 I am heading to the dyno over the weekend to make a couple runs with and without the side pipes back-to-back, no tuning between runs.  I want to see how much restriction there is on the standard pipe.   
I spoke with Reg, he was told me to expect 2% hp loss.  If that's the case, may not be worth new pipes, (9 hp for $2,000)  I will post the results.  
 
I did see these new Backdraft pipes - you can remove the baffling - very interesting...Side pipe |  
	
		
	
	
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				11-19-2009, 01:34 PM
			
			
			
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					Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bainbridge Island, 
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 Be sure you keep an eye on your A/F ratio when you run open pipes.  Your results can be skewed if the motor leans out and HP drops off.
 Bill
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				11-19-2009, 01:38 PM
			
			
			
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					Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: SF Bay Area, 
						CA Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1019 
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 Bill's right!  I swapped my stock SPF pipes for one's with 3.5" ID mufflers and race collectors AND I made no carb changes - at 4kRPM is started sputtering - obviously running too lean.
 If you want to make apples-to-apples comparison, then you will have to re-tune your carb (richen) to compensate for the decrease in backpressure.
 
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 Randy...
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				12-01-2009, 02:12 PM
			
			
			
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					Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West Suburbs of Chicago, 
						IL Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft#357, 392CI Ford Racing, 459hp, 455ft/lbs  , TKO 500, 3.43 Gears, Ceramic Coated Headers, Victor Jr. 750cfm, 17in Halibrand wheels, Sterling Gray/Silver Stripes, Gray Leather, Nitto NT05 
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				 answered by Native1 
 To close the loop on this post, it is 3% to 3.5% with a Roush 427 and was answered by naitive1 in the following post: Dyno Sheet - HP and Torque Question |  
	
		
	
	
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				12-01-2009, 02:30 PM
			
			
			
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						TX Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #621, Keith Craft 408 
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				 New side pipes 
 I just removed my stock BDR side pipes and replaced with Cobra Paks. Rejetted up two sizes and now we're off to the Dyno. Sounds much better, this motor has to be breating better, the stock pipes are really restrictive. I'll post the results.Before:
 KC-408w, motor dyno'd 554hp/552tq
 RWHP: 419.7/430tq
 BDR #621
 
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				 please post results! 
 I'd like to see if you have a similar (3%) or so loss in hp.  Some of the manufactures of aftermarket pipes are touting anywhere between 50-100hp. For me, that would be worth the trouble, but for 15 hp(3.5%) probably not. |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
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