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Old 01-02-2014, 09:59 AM
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Good points by both ERA 2076 and Era Charles .
There is a relationship/goal that the suspension guys I know use for initial setup for track cars . The left side tires should have the same front to rear wgt distribution as the whole car and ditto for the right side . However , please note that the LS and RS actual wheel weights may not be the same because the CG`s may be offset .
So , just for the fun of it , I put ERA Charles` weights into my formulas to see how close his car was to the "ideal" setup . Pretty close .
Charles .... per my formula , you should be at : RF @ 656 lbs , RR @733lbs , LF @ 675 lbs and LR @ 762lbs . Your actual weights were RF ... 648 lbs , RR ... 748lbs , LF ... 682lbs and LR .. 755 lbs . The rule we use is , if you are within 10 lbs of the goal , don`t touch the car until you drive it . 50 lbs off , you readjust .
FYI .... my weights were all within 1 to 3 lbs of the "ideal" and the car handled great on the track . Note , I said on the track . I will bet you that a car can be off 50+ lbs and the average driver will never notice it . Also , tell someone his car was off and then say you adjusted it and I bet you he will say it handles better . We did this several times to drivers when i was doing dirt track .
I weighed/adjusted my car because : I was going to track it and I had replaced all shocks and springs and the ERA settings didn`t necessarily apply anymore for the heavier springs . They got me in the ballpark for the street , but not where I wanted to be for the track .
BTW , my suspension guy has over 20 years setting up dirt cars , SVRA , HSR cars and NASCAR truck series trucks .
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:06 AM
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The reason you disconnect the anti sway bars before setting corner weights isn`t because of the bars weight , but to eliminate any possible binding due to links being misadjusted etc . Reconnect the bars after setting the weights and make sure there is no preload on them .
It goes without saying ( I hope ) that all this is done with weight in the driver`s seat and 1/2 to 3/4 tank of fuel .
Yes , I agree that all of this is probably overkill for the street , but after all , these cars are toys for us to play with and experiment on .
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:27 AM
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You know, it's funny. This topic has come up time and time again over the years. Considering all the money we waste on these cars, why somebody would be reluctant to just pull in to a suspension shop, and drive their car up on the scales and have the guys write the weights down, is absolutely beyond me. I bet a weight check with no adjustments is $50 or less. And that's only if your local club doesn't have a set to loan out. You can then choose to either do nothing, or have them adjusted, depending on your preference. Why would you not want to know? Jeez, it's no different than checking your blood pressure or cholesterol, or the air in your tires. The difference is that you only have to do it once.
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the reason you disconnect the anti sway bars before setting corner weights isn`t because of the bars weight , but to eliminate any possible binding due to links being misadjusted etc .
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