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Old 12-20-2016, 01:56 PM
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No, the Continuation Series is a Shelby product with a Shelby Vin and a Shelby MSO and there are laws and regulations the govern the advertising and marketing of a Product.

They all have good lawyers and no replica maker uses the term Continuation Series and if they did they would find themselves in Court.

Words have meanings in context, and if anyone else attempted to sell a Continuation Cobra by conflating the meaning, they might get a visit from the FBI and face fraud charges.
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:28 PM
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No, the Continuation Series is a Shelby product with a Shelby Vin and a Shelby MSO and there are laws and regulations the govern the advertising and marketing of a Product.

They all have good lawyers and no replica maker uses the term Continuation Series and if they did they would find themselves in Court.

Words have meanings in context, and if anyone else attempted to sell a Continuation Cobra by conflating the meaning, they might get a visit from the FBI and face fraud charges.
Jaguar:

Inspired by the Lightweight E-type project, each new XKSS continuation will be being painstakingly hand-built at Jaguar’s new facility in Warwick.

The first of the new continuation Jaguar XKSS will be delivered in 2017.


More: Classic Continuations | Iconic Car Recreations | Jaguar

Aston Martin:

One of Aston Martin’s most iconic models – the DB4 G.T. - is to be celebrated with a special series of 25 track-only continuation cars built to lightweight specification by Aston Martin Works at Newport Pagnell.

Remaining faithful to the design of those original eight factory lightweights, each DB4 G.T. continuation will be built with Aston Martin Works’ unrivalled experience and exemplary attention. Employing a blend of old world craftsmanship and modern techniques, continuation cars benefit from improvements in engine performance, handling, braking and safety, with great care taken to ensure these enhancements build upon the original’s exceptional qualities while retaining its feel and character.

Underlining that authenticity are the continuation car VIN numbers, which carry on from the last original DB4 G.T. ordered - Chassis 0202R - for an unbroken bloodline and impeccable Newport Pagnell-built pedigree spanning half a century.


More: https://www.astonmartin.com/en/media...-in-the-making

IMO, the term "continuation" should be restricted to vehicles that are a continuation or an extension of the original production. Different methods may be used in their construction (e.g. TIG welding, stamped aluminum body panels instead of hand-formed), but the cars are as close as they can be to those originally produced both aesthetically and mechanically. Aston Martin is making improvements in a number of areas on their DB4 G.T. cars, but none which should detract from the originals' "feel and character." I'm okay with that.

Based upon the foregoing definition, Shelby's use of the term "Continuation" would be improper, notwithstanding it's otherwise broad acceptance. "Replica" or "representation" would be a more accurate term than "Continuation".

OTOH, Shelby has most likely trademarked the term "Continuation Series" and, as such, has exclusive use to the term - even if it is improperly applied to a replica.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:45 PM
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Jaguar:

Inspired by the Lightweight E-type project, each new XKSS continuation will be being painstakingly hand-built at Jaguar’s new facility in Warwick.

The first of the new continuation Jaguar XKSS will be delivered in 2017.


More: Classic Continuations | Iconic Car Recreations | Jaguar

Aston Martin:

One of Aston Martin’s most iconic models – the DB4 G.T. - is to be celebrated with a special series of 25 track-only continuation cars built to lightweight specification by Aston Martin Works at Newport Pagnell.

Remaining faithful to the design of those original eight factory lightweights, each DB4 G.T. continuation will be built with Aston Martin Works’ unrivalled experience and exemplary attention. Employing a blend of old world craftsmanship and modern techniques, continuation cars benefit from improvements in engine performance, handling, braking and safety, with great care taken to ensure these enhancements build upon the original’s exceptional qualities while retaining its feel and character.

Underlining that authenticity are the continuation car VIN numbers, which carry on from the last original DB4 G.T. ordered - Chassis 0202R - for an unbroken bloodline and impeccable Newport Pagnell-built pedigree spanning half a century.


More: https://www.astonmartin.com/en/media...-in-the-making

IMO, the term "continuation" should be restricted to vehicles that are a continuation or an extension of the original production. Different methods may be used in their construction (e.g. TIG welding, stamped aluminum body panels instead of hand-formed), but the cars are as close as they can be to those originally produced both aesthetically and mechanically. Aston Martin is making improvements in a number of areas on their DB4 G.T. cars, but none which should detract from the originals' "feel and character." I'm okay with that.

Based upon the foregoing definition, Shelby's use of the term "Continuation" would be improper, notwithstanding it's otherwise broad acceptance. "Replica" or "representation" would be a more accurate term than "Continuation".

OTOH, Shelby has most likely trademarked the term "Continuation Series" and, as such, has exclusive use to the term - even if it is improperly applied to a replica.
So, besides the improvements and enhancements and the different methods used in their construction, and can't be legally used on roads not including racetracks, the new DB4 GT's "continuations" are authentic and the 'bloodlines are unbroken."

Yaaaa, sure. What a crock of S. Unbroken bloodline? They must mean besides at least 1 bankruptcy and being sold several times including Ford owning them for a while. Unbroken. Holy cow!

Yep, it's a "continuation," of something, alright.

What's next, the Rolex, Dodge Challenger or Grateful Dead/Journey/Van Halen "continuation" analogy?

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No, the Continuation Series is a Shelby product with a Shelby Vin and a Shelby MSO and there are laws and regulations the govern the advertising and marketing of a Product.

They all have good lawyers and no replica maker uses the term Continuation Series and if they did they would find themselves in Court.

Words have meanings in context, and if anyone else attempted to sell a Continuation Cobra by conflating the meaning, they might get a visit from the FBI and face fraud charges.
It's just paperwork, marketing, lawyers and names. SEMANTICS! EUPHEMISMS!

It's all good. I call ALL Shelby Cobras made after the 1960's replicas. I totally understand the need to protect the Shelby replicas. There's monetary value to it.

So, NO! Shelby is not really Shelby anymore. An investment group purchased Shelby many years ago and then the company went public.

And as for the SPF GT40s, they're called continuations too. And they're listed in the SAAC Registry, for now. We all know the story. Safir bought the name from Ford and SPF licenses the name from Safir.

But call them "continuations." I call them replicas made by a company that only exists in name. Or, you call them Kirkham's with badges.

We've been through this already a hundred times.
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