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12-20-2016, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb
rodnock, cannot understand why you are so upset, nobody denies that continuation cars are replicas, but they are replicas from the original manufacturer, thats all...
and btw every company had changes in economics over the decades, even and especially porsche (vw) and ferrari (fiat), etc...
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I'm not upset. I find it all very funny. That's why I use this emoji  You do understand that emoji correct?
Yes, every manufacturer has changed ownership in some form or another. And that's my point. They're no longer the "original" manufacturer and when they call them "continuations," all that really means is that they're reproducing a replica of an old car from 50 years ago. "Continuation" is just a fancy word for replica.
Shelby, Aston Martin and Jaguar can call them continuations or anything else they want. All it means to me and many others is that they're replicas made by a company that is no longer the actual OEM. The OEM in its original form is long gone.
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12-21-2016, 02:15 AM
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Yes, every manufacturer has changed ownership in some form or another. And that's my point. They're no longer the "original" manufacturer and when they call them "continuations," ...
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what defines the "originality" of a manufacturer?
is there more originality of a manufacturer than in the personality of the founder, inventor, eponym and (partial) owner?
in this case SAI can claim to be the original manufacturer until 2012 at least
and in that case you're right, neither aston martin, jaguar, ac, maserati nor any other company can claim this in matters of continuation cars.....
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12-21-2016, 10:42 AM
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what defines the "originality" of a manufacturer?
is there more originality of a manufacturer than in the personality of the founder, inventor, eponym and (partial) owner?
in this case SAI can claim to be the original manufacturer until 2012 at least
and in that case you're right, neither aston martin, jaguar, ac, maserati nor any other company can claim this in matters of continuation cars.....
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From memory, Shelby American was sold sometime prior to 2003 to an investor group which purchased roughly 75% +/- of the company stock. And in 2003, CSBI (Carroll Shelby International) was born and has been a public traded company since. And yes, Carroll Shelby passed in 2012, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Manufacturers can claim or use the term "continuation." SPF claims their GT40's are "continuations." But we all know that it's NOT 1960's anymore. With the Shelby Cobra replicas, there's a gap of around 30 years between production and the cars NOT made in the 1960's are "kit cars," "component cars" or "specially constructed vehicles."
We've really beaten this dead horse a 1,000,000 times already. Let's move on. 
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12-21-2016, 12:16 PM
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... But we all know that it's NOT 1960's anymore. With the Shelby Cobra replicas, there's a gap of around 30 years between production and the cars NOT made in the 1960's are "kit cars," "component cars" or "specially constructed vehicles."
We've really beaten this dead horse a 1,000,000 times already. Let's move on. 
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but its your hobby to copy and paste the same phrases always,
this phrase:
But we all know that it's NOT 1960's anymore. With the Shelby Cobra replicas, there's a gap of around 30 years between production and the cars NOT made in the 1960's are "kit cars," "component cars" or "specially constructed vehicles.
isn't controversial at all, but you repeat it again and again 
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12-21-2016, 12:37 PM
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but its your hobby to copy and paste the same phrases again and again,
this phrase:
But we all know that it's NOT 1960's anymore. With the Shelby Cobra replicas, there's a gap of around 30 years between production and the cars NOT made in the 1960's are "kit cars," "component cars" or "specially constructed vehicles.
isnt't controversial at all, but you repeat it again and again 
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I'll repeat THIS again..."We've really beaten this dead horse a 1,000,000 times already. Let's move on." 
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