What are my engine choices

[Dimis]

If a big block Cammer with an 8stack intake can pass I wouldn't have thought a small block would be a problem.

[kyleb]

Dimis.
Not sure you read my post.
They will now that the emission laws have been relaxed.
The cammer or 302 wouldn't have passed 2 years or so ago !!

[1 TUF AC]

if they have relaxed the emission laws then maybe I am wrong. I know a few guys that have passed emissions with stock efi 302 Windsor or on LPG but then they had to use special cat converters and a special tune to pass and once they passed then they pulled the motor out again and rebuilt it to make more horsepower and then another retune again. The point I was trying to make was that a stock LS3 FOR EXAMPLE Will pass emissions easy and has more than enough power for a cobra and you only have to put it in once and there is no for need cam swapping or anything like that. Its just a lot easier. if there was no laws I would built a crazy stroke Windsor in my AC. but it cost me twice as much to build one as strong ,reliable and powerful as a LS3. been there done that with my old Mustang. A friend of mine is actually thinking of putting a Xr6 turbo engine in a cobra it would definitely be different. And it probably will embarrass a lot of V8 Cobras at the lights is too.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by kyleb

Dimis.
Not sure you read my post.
They will now that the emission laws have been relaxed.
The cammer or 302 wouldn't have passed 2 years or so ago !!

Yes sir I did, and Im aware of the amendments to emissions regulations.

My response was merely directly answering the OP's topic, perhaps even trying to outline that an old school ford engine IS a viable option, and NOT taboo, or as politically incorrect as some on this thread seemed to have eluded.

Poor Zacson, shot down in flames for voicing his preference of a ford engine in a cobra of all things.
I never received the impression he "rubbished" anyone else's choices either

I've also received PMs from people scared to voice similar opinions for fear of receiving similar "treatment" or setting off some internet skirmish.
Seems a little ironic to me... So Ive jumped on the FORD bandwagon to balance the numbers a bit.

Kayleb - You need not justify your choice of engine to me, and why you chose what you did 2years ago. I was (perhaps still am) jealous, impressed and amazed at how your car turned out while following your build thread. Awesome bit of kit you've got there. Congrats!

Ps. Sorry if this post comes across a little hostile or confrontational. That's not the intent. Im hoping my written words carry the same vibe as if I were speaking to whoever was reading this.

Enjoy and best wishes

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Yes sir I did, and Im aware of the amendments to emissions regulations.

My response was merely directly answering the OP's topic, perhaps even trying to outline that an old school ford engine IS a viable option, and NOT taboo, or as politically incorrect as some on this thread seemed to have eluded.

Poor Zacson, shot down in flames for voicing his preference of a ford engine in a cobra of all things.
I never received the impression he "rubbished" anyone else's choices either

I've also received PMs from people scared to voice similar opinions for fear of receiving similar "treatment" or setting off some internet skirmish.
Seems a little ironic to me... So Ive jumped on the FORD bandwagon to balance the numbers a bit.

Kayleb - You need not justify your choice of engine to me, and why you chose what you did 2years ago. I was (perhaps still am) jealous, impressed and amazed at how your car turned out while following your build thread. Awesome bit of kit you've got there. Congrats!

Ps. Sorry if this post comes across a little hostile or confrontational. That's not the intent. Im hoping my written words carry the same vibe as if I were speaking to whoever was reading this.

Enjoy and best wishes

So am I to believe the Cammer engine has achieved full registration in Queensland? Has there been a major change in legislation or has someone successfully bribed the right people? I thought all engines had to be an emissions compliant engine???? I am guessing this would open the flood gates for any type of engine to gain compliance????

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by Towmaster

So am I to believe the Cammer engine has achieved full registration in Queensland? Seemingly yes, at least 1

Has there been a major change in legislation legislation posted earlier in this thread if I'm not mistaken.

or has someone successfully bribed the right people? Why would you say that? I'm not sure what you're suggesting.

I thought all engines had to be an emissions compliant engine????Correct, as far as I can't tell

I am guessing this would open the flood gates for any type of engine to gain compliance????Provided it meets the legislation. What's wrong with that?

Responses above ^

Not sure why you think it's a bad thing.
Im thinking with the km our cars see, I could run the filthiest engine imaginable in a cobra and it would be anywhere near as harmful to the environment as me running a Prius as a daily runner.

[Towmaster]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Responses above ^

Not sure why you think it's a bad thing.
Im thinking with the km our cars see, I could run the filthiest engine imaginable in a cobra and it would be anywhere near as harmful to the environment as me running a Prius as a daily runner.

Dimis,
I would be all in favour of any type of engine gaining compliance, although I would probably stick with my injected 6 litre Windsor.

I wish the state authorities would just adopt a Nationally accepted scheme with regards to the engines allowed. Victoria is obviously different to Queensland and I haven't heard any talk of the Queensland regulations changing recently.

Apparently, in Queensland, the engine has to be a late model fuel injected engine that passed its engine emissions in it's factory OEM condition and must run the factory computer? Hence the reason most people are choosing the LS based engines because they are current. Also the late model fuel injected Windsor and Coyote engines pass this compliance. IM240 is not, I believe, an option up here?

I am not aware of any late model vehicle sold with an 8 stack equipped cammer engine in Australia? So that is why I asked if there were changes or if there was a loop hole that maybe guys could now run older style engines with aftermarket ECU's in Queensland?

This could be a game changer for engine choices in Queensland, and, as I said, open the flood gates for us Northerners anyway.

We don't have a club registration scheme up here.

[damage]

Originally Posted by Towmaster

So am I to believe the Cammer engine has achieved full registration in Queensland? Has there been a major change in legislation or has someone successfully bribed the right people? I thought all engines had to be an emissions compliant engine???? I am guessing this would open the flood gates for any type of engine to gain compliance????

Yes it's registered LEGALLY.
Non one was bribed, believe it or not the Cretan who knew f&$)all actually might have been smarter then he was given credit for.


Read my threads and I made comments there about leaning the crap out of the engine to pass emissions.

Half the problem with this forum is there are so many experts on here that actually know f$&)all themselves. If one does the research there is a correct answer for everything and people telling me something COULDNT be done was just fodder to prove them wrong.

It even passed noise emissions tests with live side pipes something else that has been said on this forum that can't be done.

[Donunder]

Damage I don't know you, I've never met you so I have to take what you say on good faith. Fact is, for so long people building new cars have been told over and over again that the current restrictions mean that only modern emissions compliant motors with factory ECUs and inlet manifolds stood a chance of being able to be registered.

What you have done, in questioning the status quo, may mean that people who want to build a nice old school car now have a chance of doing so. By old school I mean a beautifully executed modern build with the best brakes steering and suspension available, but with an old style FE or similar big block with a desirable after market eight-stack or even quad Webers or a single or twin Holley setup under the hood. So perhaps "modern" old school is a better description. I know many builders have gone to serious lengths to improve cosmetically the appearance of their modern motors but looking at some of the engine bays in the cars on Cobra Country, I feel envious at what our American cousins have at their disposal. Same thing the last time I looked at the generic plastic shrouded motor under a modern Jag's hood and my mind went straight back to the glorious twin cam triple SU sixes of the early E Types. Showing my age I know ...

Now that your motor has been legally passed and accepted you may find that some guys with a love of Cobra history who have quietly mourned the passing of genuine old school cars into the graveyard of grey government over-regulation may now be inspired to either build or modify their Cobras to be more in keeping with what they perceive to be the true spirit of the Cobra.

I get the feeling the knowledge you have gained in walking your engine through the regulations minefield may become highly sought after by other builders in the future.

[kyleb]

Damage
Keen to know differences between states..
Did you have to pass IM240 test or is it different for QLD?
Was it ADR 37/00 or ADR 37/01 you had to comply with ?
What noise level did you have to pass ?
Was it a stationary test or drive by?
You're pretty quick to have a crack at people on here about their perceived lack of knowledge but remember the regulations differ from state to state unfortunately...
Cheers