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08-30-2023, 07:35 AM
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Last edited by Mj_72; 08-31-2023 at 05:59 AM..
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08-30-2023, 08:03 AM
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Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Mj_72
Thanks for the input guys. Ive never been on a thread where people cared so much about what someone else does or doesn't do with their cars. With the most respect to everyone we appreciate the concern but as Im sure you know people are going to do what they want. When a person can buy 20 original cars they dont see the value in them like someone who grew up with them or maybe owned one at some point in their life. Its just a toy in a toy box to some. Im not going to discuss the owner and I personal relationship and what business I have asking questions with just anyone. Making statements like “he has bigger plans than the owner is a snide comment and not necessary. We are all adults and professionals here I would hope. I enjoy the research and learning and he enjoys it as well and its been fun. Im will continue to ask questions and if you have constructive input hen thank you.
That said , so when people restore cars im guessing they are just cutting all new aluminum panels and using them, as it would seem impossible to reproduce the factory finish.
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Cobras, real or replica, are a passion some people, apparently like yourself, just cannot grasp. Owning 1, or 20, or having the funds to do both does not matter here, enthusiasm does. Again, some people just cannot grasp that concept. As for the car itself, we do not care about the owner, we care more about the car, and if it is truly an original 60's built CSX series car, what is done during it's rebuild/restoration. It's the owners car, he can do with it what he wants, but given the low production from 1962-1967, you would think he would want to get it right the first time. Of course we have seen those with more money than brains, do horrible things to such cars in the past, why, because they could. Are you, or your "friend" one of those? From the attitude of your last post, it does so appear to be. So much for burning bridges in a short time, while some of us were only trying to get enough information to properly assist you.
Bill S.
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08-30-2023, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
Cobras, real or replica, are a passion some people, apparently like yourself, just cannot grasp. Owning 1, or 20, or having the funds to do both does not matter here, enthusiasm does. Again, some people just cannot grasp that concept. As for the car itself, we do not care about the owner, we care more about the car, and if it is truly an original 60's built CSX series car, what is done during it's rebuild/restoration. It's the owners car, he can do with it what he wants, but given the low production from 1962-1967, you would think he would want to get it right the first time. Of course we have seen those with more money than brains, do horrible things to such cars in the past, why, because they could. Are you, or your "friend" one of those? From the attitude of your last post, it does so appear to be. So much for burning bridges in a short time, while some of us were only trying to get enough information to properly assist you.
Bill S.
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Bill, you said alot there. Burning bridges for responding to non constructive criticism isnt how I would perceive that but your entitled to your opinion.
My response was directly to the point that answering every post with “ you are asking questions that you shouldnt ask and should not be involved in”. Saying that initially is understandable but every question that is asked needs to have that rehashed? That was a blanket statement i made about wealthy owners doing what they want regardless of what other say on every single post. “dont do this or only this person should do this”. Im asking very detailed questions about things “ nobody but the main handful of shops should be discussing amongst themselves” and Im not passionate or enthusiastic?
I respect your input and you have been helpful, others want to continue to make blanket statements about my involvement, the intentions , are just bullying and not helpful to anyone. I get it intitial but there should be a point where the concerns are noted and move on to either offer answers to questions or just keep scrolling.
Again thank you for the help and I hope we can continue to communicate.
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08-30-2023, 11:09 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Mj_72
Bill, you said alot there. Burning bridges for responding to non constructive criticism isnt how I would perceive that but your entitled to your opinion.
My response was directly to the point that answering every post with “ you are asking questions that you shouldnt ask and should not be involved in”. Saying that initially is understandable but every question that is asked needs to have that rehashed? That was a blanket statement i made about wealthy owners doing what they want regardless of what other say on every single post. “dont do this or only this person should do this”. Im asking very detailed questions about things “ nobody but the main handful of shops should be discussing amongst themselves” and Im not passionate or enthusiastic?
I respect your input and you have been helpful, others want to continue to make blanket statements about my involvement, the intentions , are just bullying and not helpful to anyone. I get it intitial but there should be a point where the concerns are noted and move on to either offer answers to questions or just keep scrolling.
Again thank you for the help and I hope we can continue to communicate.
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Matthew,
When you come to a site, as fresh new user, you need to realize that those of us who have been around here, might have a bit more of a knowledge base. Some of us have gotten are hands dirty on originals, or just been obsessed by them, same goes for the replicas, again, it does not matter as it is the common enthusiasm for the car that binds us together. We cannot agree on everything 100%, nor do we expect others to. Again, your car, or your friends car, your choices. Here, a little less attitude will get you much more cooperation than otherwise. Flair ups happen, noses get bent out of joint (especially if you have a beige colored Cobra  ), does it happen, you bet, but again, in the long run, we are all just car guys/gals.
Bill S.
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08-30-2023, 05:27 PM
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Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Originally Posted by Mj_72
Bill, you said alot there. Burning bridges for responding to non constructive criticism isnt how I would perceive that but your entitled to your opinion.
My response was directly to the point that answering every post with “ you are asking questions that you shouldnt ask and should not be involved in”. Saying that initially is understandable but every question that is asked needs to have that rehashed? That was a blanket statement i made about wealthy owners doing what they want regardless of what other say on every single post. “dont do this or only this person should do this”. Im asking very detailed questions about things “ nobody but the main handful of shops should be discussing amongst themselves” and Im not passionate or enthusiastic?
I respect your input and you have been helpful, others want to continue to make blanket statements about my involvement, the intentions , are just bullying and not helpful to anyone. I get it intitial but there should be a point where the concerns are noted and move on to either offer answers to questions or just keep scrolling.
Again thank you for the help and I hope we can continue to communicate.
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Hey - Welcome aboard. I hope you stick around and keep us posted with the progress of the restoration. That would be interesting and appreciated by the majority of members here. Don't let the snob factor drive you away - some people here take these cars and themselves waaaay too seriously. Everyone here knows a dead on accurate nuts and bolts restoration will do more for the resale value of the car, but as you say - it's the owner's car and his money so let him do whatever the hell he wants with it. Plenty of original cars were modified to and from comp specs back in the day and beyond - repainted, roll barred and side piped and vice versa. Makes them no less interesting to me or most Cobra enthusiasts - we're not all wannabe concourse judges and Shelby American attack poodles, lol! Enjoy the hell outta your involvement with the build and stick around and share some details so we can enjoy it too. Life's way too short to get all fussed up and obsessed about stuff that should be fun. There are lots of very knowledgeable folks on here who will be happy to chime in and answer whatever questions they can. 
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08-30-2023, 05:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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MJ - are you in a position to be able to share more details of the car in question?
You certainly don't need to identify the car or owner if that isn't appropriate.
Incidentally, welcome to Club Cobra! We are, if nothing else, passionate about Cobras (and Cobra 'replicas')
Cheers!
Glen
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