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03-19-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Aprile
Semper Fi
Glass aside, there should be no difference in the shape of the body between 1350 and 1715 as well as the latest factory releases. I will run this by the guy's on SCOF...
The only body shape difference was the old body from car #1 to #1200 give or take 30 cars, then the body cowl was raised on the new body and thus a new windshield shape, this remained the same until present...
Are you sure one of you are not reading your car number correctly, because the
VIN sometimes places a "1" in front of the number thus confusing them.
Check out this link:
http://performanceunlimited.com/scof/carnumber.html
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I am positive that my car is SPO1350 (says on the title) and Chris's car is SPO1715. I am also positive that they are different. Not trying to start a pissing match, but I don't know what else to tell you. I will get a picture of our cars side by side so you can actually see there's a difference in the 2 cars!
This is strange, just like when Chris was trying to get a new winshield on his car (# 1715) the winshield that came off his car didn't match my winshield or the new winshields that SPF had in stock. The frames were actually shaped different. I know--this is puzzling, but I can assure you I am speaking the truth and I don't smoke crack 
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03-19-2007, 04:57 PM
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Semper Fi,
I'd have to guess there is something weird about the serial #'s you are using. The earlier cars are the more flat ones and the later ones have the taller arch. This was done to make the 460 based engines fit easier. A few pics of the 2 tags would eliminate the issue with the numbers. It sounds like 1715 may really be 715. Since I haven't read all the posts, were both the cars bought new? If not, had any damage been repaired? What dates were they purchased, if new??
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03-19-2007, 05:19 PM
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Semper Fi,
I'd have to guess there is something weird about the serial #'s you are using. The earlier cars are the more flat ones and the later ones have the taller arch. This was done to make the 460 based engines fit easier. A few pics of the 2 tags would eliminate the issue with the numbers. It sounds like 1715 may really be 715. Since I haven't read all the posts, were both the cars bought new? If not, had any damage been repaired? What dates were they purchased, if new??
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You had to stir up the pot, didn't you?  Actually, my car is a 2002 #1350 and Chris car # 1715 is a 2004. I am absolutely positive of these numbers.
We are both the 2nd owners of our cars.
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03-19-2007, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Semper Fi
you can actually see there's a difference in the 2 cars!
This is strange, just like when Chris was trying to get a new winshield on his car (# 1715) the winshield that came off his car didn't match my winshield or the new winshields that SPF had in stock. The frames were actually shaped different. I know--this is puzzling, but I can assure you I am speaking the truth and I don't smoke crack 
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Semper Fi
I believe what you say...if there are differences between yours and Chris's MKIII's it puzzles me because they should be the same. I guess the question is why ???
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03-19-2007, 06:24 PM
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Semper Fi
I believe what you say...if there are differences between yours and Chris's MKIII's it puzzles me because they should be the same. I guess the question is why ???
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That is the "big question"......the winshields issue was puzzling also.
All in all, I love the SPF car. Lance (owner of SPF) is a very nice, respectable guy who really is there when his customers need him.
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03-20-2007, 06:15 AM
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I re-raised the issue of the # because of the chronology of the modifications. I own 1726, which has both the taller cowl and center rod. The fact that (1)715 doesn't have either makes the # question and accident repair question that more relevant. Since the original (lower cowl) mold was destroyed prior to 2004 ( or in that vicinity), the simple fact that (1)715 has a lower cowl makes either the # error or possible repair work seem highly likely.
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03-20-2007, 04:37 PM
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I re-raised the issue of the # because of the chronology of the modifications. I own 1726, which has both the taller cowl and center rod. The fact that (1)715 doesn't have either makes the # question and accident repair question that more relevant. Since the original (lower cowl) mold was destroyed prior to 2004 ( or in that vicinity), the simple fact that (1)715 has a lower cowl makes either the # error or possible repair work seem highly likely.
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I certainly respect your opinion. Chris's car (#1715, yr 2004) did have the center rod in the winshield, the replacement window didn't have it. Actually, my car ( #1350), yr 2002) has the center rod also. I doubt # 1715 was ever in an accident. The car is a special car---I believe that Olthoff built #1715.
These facts I am certain about : It's a 2004 car. It has a Roush motor (1 of 3 motors ever built) it's a 427, bored to a 434 (or close to that) and has no sidepipes...they are hidden under the car! It's a pretty sweet looking car. It was a Roush show car at one time.
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03-20-2007, 07:59 PM
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[quote=and has no sidepipes...they are hidden under the car! It's a pretty sweet looking car. It was a Roush show car at one time.[/QUOTE]
I think we may have hit the nail on the head. You have a MKIII that has sidepipes and 1715 sounds to be a Roadster. If it has no sidepipes and hood scoop he has a Roadster model. That could explain the cowl difference, the Roadster is likely done in a separate mold and it may still have the lower cowl line. While there are a few Roadsters, and I personally think they show the lines better, I believe the majority are the sidepiped MKIII's.
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03-21-2007, 03:27 PM
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I think we may have hit the nail on the head. You have a MKIII that has sidepipes and 1715 sounds to be a Roadster. If it has no sidepipes and hood scoop he has a Roadster model. That could explain the cowl difference, the Roadster is likely done in a separate mold and it may still have the lower cowl line. While there are a few Roadsters, and I personally think they show the lines better, I believe the majority are the sidepiped MKIII's.
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I do believe you are correct. That totally makes sense now!! 
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