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03-19-2015, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Wells
justushdw,
As far as I've been able to find, the difference is that the CJ/SCJ block has 4-bolt main bearings; otherwise the external markings may not tell you anything.
I did find this quote: "DOVE-A blocks produced in the Dearborn foundry are the only ones cast with extra thick main webbing to allow for the factory instalation (sic) of 4 bolt main caps."
And: "C8VE,C9VE and DOVE blocks all have a narrow pan rail."
If there is a CJ/SCJ block from any other year(s) (except D0VE-A that is,) it's unlikely it has 4-bolt main caps.
The CJ for 1968 was an FE. The 385 series CJ appeared in 1970; the 4-bolt main option appeared in 1971. (Unless there are other sites that differ LOL)
The short answer is the 4-bolt main D0VE-A is the CJ/SCJ. All the other blocks are pretty much similar to each other except the truck blocks, labeled D9TE, which have cylinders that are 0.2" deeper toward the crankshaft. The latter are considered by some a little better basis for a stroker engine.
Hope this helps!
Tom
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All my docs confirm what Tom is saying.
C8VE and C9VE just show up as "429/460-all applications"
D00E-B = "429 CJ AND SCJ Before 8-30-70"
D10E-CA = "429 CJ AND SCJ After 8-30-70"
DOVE = "1971 and Includes 429 CJ, SCJ and Police w/ 2 and 4-bolt mains"
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03-19-2015, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bernica
All my docs confirm what Tom is saying.
C8VE and C9VE just show up as "429/460-all applications"
D00E-B = "429 CJ AND SCJ Before 8-30-70"
D10E-CA = "429 CJ AND SCJ After 8-30-70"
DOVE = "1971 and Includes 429 CJ, SCJ and Police w/ 2 and 4-bolt mains"
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The above appears looks to have been sourced from a book authored by Tom Monroe, titled, "How to Rebuild Ford V8 Engines."
Important Note: While the book does offer decent step-by-step basic assembly of a bone stock Ford V8, the Engineering Code and Spec Tables at the rear of the book are filled with numerous errors are ought not be trusted. In this particular instance, there is no D00E-B 429 CJ and SCJ, nor is their a D10E-CA CJ and SCJ. These two errors are only a couple of the many, many others.
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03-19-2015, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Kane
The above appears looks to have been sourced from a book authored by Tom Monroe, titled, "How to Rebuild Ford V8 Engines."
Important Note: While the book does offer decent step-by-step basic assembly of a bone stock Ford V8, the Engineering Code and Spec Tables at the rear of the book are filled with numerous errors are ought not be trusted. In this particular instance, there is no D00E-B 429 CJ and SCJ, nor is their a D10E-CA CJ and SCJ. These two errors are only a couple of the many, many others.
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Nope, that all came from my Warner Roberts book which I got before Ford shut them down. Yes, I know and have Monroe's book too and agree.
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03-20-2015, 01:24 PM
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Nope, that all came from my Warner Roberts book which I got before Ford shut them down. Yes, I know and have Monroe's book too and agree.
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Interesting, I've never heard of the Warner Roberts book. Regardless, there are no D00E-B or D10E-CA 385 Series engine blocks (those engineering revisions more closely align with SBF blocks and heads).
The standard production 385 Series cast iron block casting numbers of which I am aware are: C8VE-B, C8VE-F, C9VE-B, D0VE-A, D1VE-(various suffixes and configurations), D9TE-AB and D9TE-BB.
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