Cammer parts.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Your example doesn't apply at all. Have you read the threads?

From what I've read here the engine builder knowingly installed bad parts, including but not limited to the bad chain and Coon heads. So the engine builder knowingly sent the engine to the customer with bad parts installed. The engine broke after 40 miles! $60,000 later he needs a new engine and the engine builder is not helping. How about sending the customer a new set of SOHC heads? Did you see that head and the porosity issues?

Where does it say Damage drove his new engine and Kirkham above and beyond the capabilities of the engine?

Saying out loud that Keith intentionally sent an engine out knowing it was going to have a problem is ridiculous. He did not know he had bad parts.
No one would do that. Certainly not someone with Keith's reputation. So Keith has made thousands of engines and on this one he went nuts and totally changed eveything he has ever done and his reputation to this point holds no sway with you. He gets no benefit of the doubt, but Damage, everything he says is taken as gospel. You are naive, it is laughable.

I could blow an engine up in one mile if I did something stupid.

Aluminum castings have porosity issues, it is a well known fact to anyone that deals with them. I worked for one of the big three for 15 years in the parts and performance department, my neighbor is an engine platform manager for one of the big three. Aluminum castings are normally treated for porosity. Someone posted a link to a vendor who does that, did you miss that. Why do you think that vendor exists? I don't think you have the expertise to comment on this. When you buy a low run exotic casting you are asking for trouble.

Keith assumed he got good parts from his vendors and now he is paying for it. Damage does not react in a rational way. His build thread had many examples of it.

[patrickt]

Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.

[Detroit Bill]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.

I got it from this thread that Keith is fed up with it. The internet is a great thing and a horrible thing. I'll concede, Keith may not have handled it perfectly. But I am sure Damage came at him both guns a blazing.

Still some of the assertions are a bit off base. This thread has become a bit of a lynch mob and I don't think Keith deserves that.

I am not sure how I would handle this if I were him but this thread is essentially blackmail.
There are precedents for this type of thing.

I am a little surprised the moderators have not shut it down.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years.

The engine builder may be fed up with the business, but that doesn't necessarily mean the engine builder built a bad engine. Circumstantial evidence at best.

However, if Bill bothered to research the new SOHC engine and parts story over the past 5 years, he would realize that the engine builder should have known and actually did know that defective SOHC parts have been made and sold and should not have been used in Damage's SOHC engine.

Coon's SOHC head story is well documented. As are the SOHC chain drives. There are postings regarding defective parts, among other issues, dating back to 2010. That's 5 years ago, at least, on the various FE forums.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.

You nailed that one, buddy.