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Old 02-26-2015, 08:57 AM
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Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.
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Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.
I got it from this thread that Keith is fed up with it. The internet is a great thing and a horrible thing. I'll concede, Keith may not have handled it perfectly. But I am sure Damage came at him both guns a blazing.

Still some of the assertions are a bit off base. This thread has become a bit of a lynch mob and I don't think Keith deserves that.

I am not sure how I would handle this if I were him but this thread is essentially blackmail.
There are precedents for this type of thing.

I am a little surprised the moderators have not shut it down.
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:47 AM
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Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years.
The engine builder may be fed up with the business, but that doesn't necessarily mean the engine builder built a bad engine. Circumstantial evidence at best.

However, if Bill bothered to research the new SOHC engine and parts story over the past 5 years, he would realize that the engine builder should have known and actually did know that defective SOHC parts have been made and sold and should not have been used in Damage's SOHC engine.

Coon's SOHC head story is well documented. As are the SOHC chain drives. There are postings regarding defective parts, among other issues, dating back to 2010. That's 5 years ago, at least, on the various FE forums.
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Old 02-26-2015, 11:50 AM
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Bill, the real problem that exists here is one that you would only know about had you been reading different, unrelated threads over the years. Keith is fed up with the engine building business. He's sick and tired of it all. If he could sell it for the right price he would do it in a heart beat. Now, that certainly doesn't excuse anything, but it helps to explain it. It tends to be human nature that when you get to the point where you're just sick of what you're doing (and really not so much what you're doing, but rather the people that you're dealing with (customers, suppliers, etc.) that it then reflects over on situations such as this and tends to fuel bad decisions. You then dig in your heels on your bad decisions and it gets even worse. This could have all been handled differently from the beginning, but I have to believe that the fact that Keith is just sick of the business is a large part of it all.
You nailed that one, buddy.
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