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Old 02-26-2015, 03:02 PM
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So Bill,

Any chance you could explain which part of these first 3 emails is me coming out with both guns blazing.

I couldn't even get a response to confirm that they had recieved my email for some weeks afterwards

I didn't receive any creditable answers on any of these emails till after Christmas despite sending emails enquiring if they had had a chance to assess my email information.
If they did not reply, shame on them they are wrong.
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:38 PM
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If they did not reply, shame on them they are wrong.
OK, are you now on the RodKnock team?
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:58 PM
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OK, are you now on the RodKnock team?
My team roster is full. No new players.

Located somewhere in every investment prospectus is the following phrase:

“Past performance does not guarantee future results.” Otherwise known as the "What have you done for me lately?" rule.

Just because McDonald's has served more than 20 Billion customers, doesn't make today's mistake acceptable in any way shape or form:

Cop Claims McDonald’s Served Him Toxic Tea

Some police officer asked for and bought a McDonald's iced tea and got heavy duty degreaser and spent the night in the hospital. So what if McDonald's has Billions of happy customers, which I have no way of ever understanding BTW.

Does it make this guy feel better?

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Old 02-26-2015, 05:01 PM
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Some police officer asked for and bought a McDonald's iced tea and got heavy duty degreaser and spent the night in the hospital.
I've had that. The McDegreaser.
You need it after a Big Mac and fries.
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Damage,

I am shocked that once it was realized that the heads had core shift problems that Keith Craft did not get another set that were right. Furthermore, why did he not inform you of what he found and what he did to try and rectify the problem? This is almost as ludicrous as when Barillaro installed bent valves in my motor and when we found the problem due to sticking valves when conducting a leak down test, he replied that he had that same problem with those valves before but since they were new he did not check them. I think that Barillaro and Keith Craft went to the same school of engine building.
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:02 PM
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Gentlemen,

First, I really think you guys should understand who Damage is. He is David Trask, a former F1 boat driver. To keep this in perspective you need to understand he is a driver/athlete of such extreme skills that trying to keep up with him on a track would be akin to playing one-on-one basketball with Michael Jordan and expecting to make a shot. I believe any suggestion he abuses his equipment is unfounded. In motorcar racing spectators are likely to help you if you crash. In ocean racing “spectators” are likely to eat whatever is left of you after you tumble across the waves. Broken parts can be especially lethal on the water. Consider a prop shaft breaking, causing the nose to dive and dig in--sending you into cartwheels.

I have spent many hours on the phone with David. In addition to being a very successful businessman, it is very apparent to me he is also an extremely skilled and knowledgeable mechanic. He is a self-made man who isn't afraid of grease under his fingernails—even though he can afford about any mechanic around. He works very, very hard to understand things.

Unfortunately, conclusions have been surmised regarding David which I do not believe are true. David has been, and remains, an exceptional customer of ours. He has always paid on time and done everything he said he was going to do. He never complained about price. He simply wanted things done right. I certainly don't blame him.

It appears some have thought that because he has commented about two different vendors that there must be a problem with Damage. I sincerely do not believe that to be the case.

Unfortunately, I believe Damage got caught up in a difficult situation with Absolute Pace. I think Kirkham had a difficult time with Absolute Pace as well. (Absolute Pace no longer sells our products in Australia and we are no longer affiliated with them in way.)

Keith Craft is more complicated, as Keith is a personal friend and customer of mine. I have known Keith and his wife Shelly for years and I consider them wonderful people. From Keith's posts I think he is tired. It happens. I feel for him and his beautiful wife. I wish him the greatest success.

Damage told me his motor that failed within a few miles. All the emails Damage listed are indeed emails that were sent to Keith. I was copied on all of them. Damage says the valves are marked 360 degrees around. I take him at his word; he knows what he is talking about. I think marks can only happen while the engine is running (valves spin when running). The moment a timing chain breaks, the valves stop moving and spinning (and marking).

The photos show cracks in the ports from the porting that Keith probably did. I imagine the walls got thin and Keith welded them up. Unfortunately, Damage says the port walls are too thin to be useable.

Keith and Damage have become good friends of mine (like virtually all our customers). Yesterday I told Damage to send the heads to Kirkham. We will make Damage a new set of heads from billet (if we can figure out how to do it). I imagine we can. We can make just about anything. We have a new Integrex 5 axis machine (9 total axis when you count up the parallel axis) which would be perfect for these heads. I can't wait to see Damage going down the road with a smile.

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Old 02-26-2015, 04:05 PM
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This is the email from my engineer here in Australia.

"Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 2:38 PM
To: David Trask
Subject: HEADS

Hello David,

Attached are photos of the heads with crack test die on them.
You can see on the welded exhaust port head that 3 of the exhaust ports have cracks(one with 2 cracks).
We pushed a scribe through on of the exhaust port walls(at the most 1mm thick).
On the back of the heads in near the rocker gear you can see that there are cracks coming from where the plugs are.
You can see, if you look carefully that one of the plug areas has been welded and polished off and still looks suspect(so they are aware of the problems).
The person who supplied the heads SHOULD 100% supply you with a new set of heads to replace this pair.(FREE OF CHARGE)
Not being rude to you but these heads are **** and have been patched up and unloaded onto you.
The people who did them would be fully aware of how bad they are!
They have been ported too much to suit the casting and have ended up thin.(being thin and having really bad porosity is not good either for down the track).
They need to have some heads ported .040” -.060” per side undersize or get better casting thickness.
Do you want to have a conversation with them before we continue?
The next step for us with the heads is to pressure test them to see if they are going to leak anywhere else apart from the cracks.(eg porosity holes)


Phil "


I have removed his company details deliberately as there is no need to involve him in this dispute.

This is my email to Keith Craft where I politely gave them a piece of my mind.

On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 1:00 AM, David Trask <david@trask> wrote:

"Lance,

Once again no one has responded to me since our last email exchange on 19 February. I’m guessing this was deliberate so I didn’t show up at your workshop while I was in the US.

Please see the email below from the guy here in Australia who is helping me with all the crack testing and machine work that is required.

His email and the photos are self-explanatory, the heads that KC fitted to the engine are substandard (read this as **.

The work that KC did on the heads is poor quality and this has led to further failures. I’m not sure how it is that KC welding up heads on one side of the engine and not supplying port matched heads would be or could be considered a part suppliers problem. This is simply poor workmanship on behalf of KC.

I would like some answers immediately.

Just to remind you of how many times I have emailed you and your responses to date here is a complete outline of all communication on this to date.

DT EMAIL TO KC, My first email to you on this matter was 11/10/14
KC EMAIL TO DT, email You responded and advised me to let you know what parts I needed 11/12/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance I responded acknowledging your request. 11/12/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance Photos of all damaged parts and parts list provided 11/22/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance Requested confirmation of email received 11/22/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance Requested confirmation of email receipt 11/26/14
KC TO DT, email from Lance confirmed receipt of email and forwarded to Keith for his comment 11/27/14. Including photos
DT TO KC, email to Lance acknowledging your email. 11/27/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance and Keith asking for a response 12/11/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance and Keith asking for a response 12/16/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance and Keith asking for a response 12/17/14
DT TO KC, email to Lance and Keith asking for a response 12/23/14
DT TO KC, TELEPHONE CALL spoke to Lance asking for a response 1/7/15 request by yourself to forward photos direct to Keith
DT TO KC, email to Lance confirming telephone conversation 1/7/15 and forwarding photos again
DT TO KC, email to Lance asking for different email address for Keith 1/9/15 because the email address supplied for Keith was incorrect.
KC TO DT, email from Lance saying KC was willing to help 1/10/15
DT TO KC, TELEPHONE CALL to Lance asking what’s going on 1/14/15
DT TO KC, email Keith and Lance forwarding parts list and pictures again as per your request after another telephone call 1/14/15
KC TO DT, email from Lance confirming Keith has been again forwarded all information. 1/14/15 and a copy of an email from Keith to Lance confirming that he wanted photos of all broken parts.
DT TO KC, email to Keith and Lance asking for a time frame on when I will get a response. 1/14/15
DT TO KC, email to Keith with parts list in response to Keith post on Cobra Forum. 2/4/15
KC TO DT, email from Lance confirming that Keith received parts list 2/4/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance confirming his response 2/4/15 and confirming that I have never had a direct response from Keith.
KC TO DT, email from Lance saying he thought I had been in contact with Keith. 2/4/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance stating that Keith has never responded to any emails. 2/5/15
KC TO DT, email from Lance confirming that Keith would have a response tomorrow. 2/5/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance confirming his response 2/5/15.
KC TO DT, email from Lance asking for more information on what happened and how was engine used. 2/7/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance explaining every detail of what occurred with engine. 2/7/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance asking for answers and update on where things were at 2/16/15
KC TO DT, email from Lance stating he would get back to me. 2/17/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance confirming his advice and requesting immediate response. 2/17/15
KC TO DT , email confirming will let me know asap. 2/17/15
DT TO KC, email to Lance asking where we are at 2/19/15

I’ve been more then patient but my patience has run out.



Regards

David Trask
Managing Director


And this is Lances reply

"You would have been more then welcome to come by here while in the US. I would have encouraged it so you could see as many have that we are not a tiny hole in the wall operation with kids building engines. I have spoke with Keith every time I have received emails. I have asked you several times to please email Keith directly. I am stuck in the middle on the deal. All I can do is relay info to him and he has to make the call. I would love to make a call for you but at this time I am not in the position to be able to make these type decisions. The issue with the heads are the core shift in Coons casting s and the reason we no longer use his heads, we now use the Pond. Our cnc machined cuts off the same location every time locating off the head dowel. If it goes thru because of core shift all we can do is weld the heads and pressure test. We do not install without a pressure test off the engine and then inspect on the dyno. I hate that they may have formed a crack after heat cycles on the heads but they would not have been installed if they were leaking here. We have absolutely no desire for any customers to have any issues with our engine. I was able to get Keith to agree to supply front cover and entire timing assembly from Pond as we feel these are the best kits out at this time. Please send an address and I will have the parts drop shipped. Once again I apologize for the issues and wish I could have helped you get answers sooner. Thanks

Lance Smith
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Whilst I appreciate that Lance is making every effort or at least appears to be trying to help out the response from Keith (the company owner) is far from satisfactory as a timing cover and chains are at best about $1,000 worth of parts and not everything required to fix the motor.
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:24 PM
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And this is Lances reply:

"...The issue with the heads are the core shift in Coons castings and the reason we no longer use his heads, we now use the Pond...
Well, they're still advertising the Coon heads for sale as just heads separately or installed on their SOHC engines.

Again, if one goes back and reads the various FEForum threads on the Bill Coon saga, including lawsuits, his aluminum heads had porosity problems dating back to 2010-2011.

As I mentioned before, several years ago, I almost bought a set of Coon heads. But "reading the tea leaves", there was no way I was going to lay out $5,000-$6,000 (then machine and build them w/valves, probably another $2,500) for his problematic heads. Thank goodness.
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:43 PM
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I almost bought a set of Coon heads. But "reading the tea leaves",
Ah crap, I just realized my problem.

I don't drink tea so I didn't see the leaves.

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