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Old 02-28-2015, 10:45 AM
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I feel for both parties. No winner here. Is there a reason Damage doesn't want to send the engine back? Did I miss something? Won't be the first time.
Damage mentioned earlier that the cost to ship his Cammer engine from Australia back to the US was cost prohibitive. Also, he felt more comfortable rebuilding the engine this time around. He just wanted the parts to fix it himself.
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:33 AM
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Damage mentioned earlier that the cost to ship his Cammer engine from Australia back to the US was cost prohibitive. Also, he felt more comfortable rebuilding the engine this time around. He just wanted the parts to fix it himself.
So, it's cost prohibitive to ship a complete engine to the States, but cost and time efficient to try and amass all the parts and pay for all the labor necessary to rebuild the engine? And you expect KC to send you all the parts you say you need to complete the job? I don't know any engine builder that would go for that deal. I've never met KC, but he has offered to fix the engine. Just send it to him. I can't think of a single engine company that would send out parts to fix a warranty issue unless an authorized agent did the teardown and was going to install the parts.

It seems to me that it would be far cheaper to bite the little bullet (pay for shipping the engine back to the states and let KC fix it and ship it back) than to
try and gather all the parts together and do it yourself. You can be damn sure he's going to upgrade the heads to Pond heads and install the best chain he can find. Knowing his reputation, he won't reuse any part (pistons, valves, etc.) that has any sign of damage or wear and tear. And then, you get another warranty.

Build it yourself and you eliminate KC from the equation (making him extremely happy) and quite possibly you could lose your $60,000 engine in another 40 miles and have no recourse whatsoever.

**** happens. Luckily you (Damage) have substantial resources to remedy the situation. Return the engine and let KC fix it.
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:39 AM
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It's unquestionable that one needs to be sympathetic to Damage's situation - dream build, big bucks for the ultimate engine, etc. In fairness, however, consider the scenario from Keith Craft's point of view: He wants the engine back so he can tear it down and conduct his own inspection to determine exactly what happened and what needs to be done to repair it.

As things stand, he is forced to accept the opinions of others dabbling in his field of established expertise who openly imply that his work was suspect, and concede to ship the requested parts on their say-so. That has to be difficult and self-incriminating to accept.

Keith has years of builds under his belt to give him the confidence that no one is better qualified than himself to conduct the forensics and fixes but Damage, understandably based on this experience probably doesn't agree; and on top of it all there's the issue of justifying the shipping costs. Perhaps the solution lies in some sort of compromise in sharing the cost of shipping, or just sending the heads - I don't know. What's painfully obvious is that it's a bad situation for all involved and I for one feel for both sides.
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