460 Aluminum block and heads available?

[Manowar]

You can have a 460, aluminum block, CHI head, Windsor if you like...
http://www.theengineshop.com/prods_p...rateEngine.htm

[John Owen]

Some weight info for my blocks, weighed same day on same scale

Ford iron block from crate 521, including 2 bolt main caps

223 #

RDI 566 aluminum block with 4 bolt steel main caps

152 #

Hope the numbers are useful

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by John Owen

Some weight info for my blocks, weighed same day on same scale

Ford iron block from crate 521, including 2 bolt main caps

223 #

RDI 566 aluminum block with 4 bolt steel main caps

152 #

Hope the numbers are useful

Wow - only a 71 pound difference. I thought it would be significantly more than that. I guess for the expense, 71 pounds on a street car probably isn't worth it. Thanks for the great info. Does anyone know the difference in weight between a 351C with aluminum heads and a 460 with iron block and aluminum heads?

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by Manowar

You can have a 460, aluminum block, CHI head, Windsor if you like...
http://www.theengineshop.com/prods_p...rateEngine.htm

Thanks, I'd love to work with you guys as I'm right here on Long Island, but Windsors just don't do it for me. No offense to the W guys, but they're just not for me.

[Manowar]

Originally Posted by 767Jockey

Thanks, I'd love to work with you guys as I'm right here on Long Island, but Windsors just don't do it for me. No offense to the W guys, but they're just not for me.

No offense taken and glad you're narrowing-down your preferences.
Thanks for the kind words.

[RACER X #99]

Doug,
I think you are making a mistake discounting the Windsor block. You may prefer the Cleveland style heads over the Windsors, that's understandable but to go with a Cleveland block is a big mistake. One of the reasons they were discontinued was because of the poor oiling system in racing applications. The Windsor racing blocks from Ford, Man O War and Dart are priority oiling systems that are the best of any Ford engine.

What Man O War is offering you is the best of both worlds, the best block and a set of great breathing CHI heads. This is just the engine that the Fords should be running in Nascar.

RD

[767Jockey]

I agree 100%. What concerns me is the limited availability of intakes for this combo. I have no affinity for Cleveland blocks, but to me a top of the line Cleveland head is a no brainer over the same level Windsor head. ( I understand many "W" fans will disagree, but to me canted always wins over straight, everything else being equal. Your opinion may vary.) Where does this combo leave me as far as intakes? I'm not willing to cut the hood and mess up the looks on the Cobra. I'm also guessing I have to have custom headers built? Right now I'm torn between a stroker Cleveland, a stroked "Clevor" with a W block, and I'm just sort of toying with the 460 idea, although I'd have to say that's pretty unlikely. I have lots of time as I'm less than halfway through redoing the car itself. My goal is to have it done for next summer, so I have lots of time but I want to get the plan down firm soon, so I can target the necessary budget. The Man O' War Cleveland they build is great, but the intake and Dominator carb is just way over the top for me, and there's NO way it will fit under the Cobra hood. I don't believe they'd be willing to change it. I called and asked when they first introduced it, and they just weren't interested at the time in making changes They're a real successful company, and I can't say I blame them for their reluctance. I'm sure they sell plenty as is. Anyway, that's sort of the direction I'm meandering in. I'm still walking in a sine wave, but the cycles are getting smaller!

Originally Posted by RACER X #99

Doug,
I think you are making a mistake discounting the Windsor block. You may prefer the Cleveland style heads over the Windsors, that's understandable but to go with a Cleveland block is a big mistake. One of the reasons they were discontinued was because of the poor oiling system in racing applications. The Windsor racing blocks from Ford, Man O War and Dart are priority oiling systems that are the best of any Ford engine.

What Man O War is offering you is the best of both worlds, the best block and a set of great breathing CHI heads. This is just the engine that the Fords should be running in Nascar.

RD

[767Jockey]

I guess I can ask right here - ManO'War, are you guys still unable to switch the intake and carb from your Clevor engine? If anything is available that'll fit under a Cobra hood, what is it? What kind of power will it make with the change, assuming a change may be available? Thanks.

[Manowar]

Jock,
Rather than answer right now, I need to make some calls and do little research to give you a full picture of the combinations.
Will post here little later in the day.

[barabar]

The latest aluminum heads for BB Ford from Trick Flo are the best as of now. Make sure they are the new ones.
Don't cut that 460 SB from World short, all aluminum putting out 600hp. Around $ 12,000.00.