Csx 6027 - Page 3

steveguess · #1 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 10:52 PM

i just saw your pm and responded to it but im not sure it went.

steveguess · #2 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 11:31 AM

kick it in a straight line but no where else. i want to use the viper as a daily which i don't have at the moment and also be able to track it at utah motor sports complex. the proble with cobra shopping is every build is different, like people here have said you really need to see, sit and drive a cobra before buying it. and i am out of the country which makes things difficult. with that said i did talk to a buddy last night who used to own a CSX4000. same set up. he said that the cars for the most part are very simple, no computers no electronics. he said if it runs it works, at 20 miles there will be a lot of dialing in and tuning what not but over all it wont be a hornets nest. so i am going to bid on it. i am thinking 125 -130 max with the buying commission in. if it happens i have a bucket list car and maybe a really good one, if not i can keep looking when the world goes back to semi normal. i will definitely keep everyone on this thread fully up to date on what transpires good or bad.

steveguess · #3 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 05:58 PM

https://www.mecum.com/lots/KC0310-92...-427-roadster/

this appears to be the first time the car was sold at mecums auction in 2010. the car shows 1 miles, it is also missing the glove box signature at this stage. it did sell. the car sold for 84k at that auction in 2010

steveguess · #4 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 07:26 PM

any idea of the cost of gearing changes

xb-60 · #5 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 08:34 PM

Well worth checking out the Second Strike (Superformance) website and playing with their gearing calculator.
You can dial into the calculator the CR Toploader and your rear axle ratio and check out the RPMs and speeds.

https://www.secondstrike.com/Technical/GearCalc.asp

Good luck with the potential purchase

Cheers!
Glen

patrickt · #6 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xb-60

Well worth checking out the Second Strike (Superformance) website and playing with their gearing calculator.

Naah, that can wait until he gets the car home and finds out whether the block is cracked or not.

1795 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-13-2020, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by steveguess

any idea of the cost of gearing changes

Steve,

David Kee Toploaders has a gear kit for changing from close ratio to wide ratio listed for $560. You will have to also include labor costs to remove and replace the transmission and the gears.

steveguess · #8 (**permalink**) 07-12-2020, 09:49 PM

naah, lets wait till he actually owns it first, then see if he has to push it into the garage or if it will actually drive. i'm already expecting it to have square tires, god only knows what 10 year oil is like, the gas may not even be gas any more. very first thing i'm doing is calling the owner.

steveguess · #9 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 04:55 PM

so the story goes as follows:
2009 shelby american chassis sold to T&E legendary, genesis 427 side oiler iron block matched with a 4 sp toploader is installed.
2010 car goes to mecum auction in Kansas city with 1 mile on it and is sold to Tim Brando TNT collection for $84k without signature on the glove box.
2011-2012 Tim Brando ( CBS sports broadcaster ) is a close personal friend of Carroll Shelby gets him to sign the car ( it is possibly the last car he signed but there is no provenance of that.
2010-2020 the car sits in the TNT muscle car collection ( 19 miles acquired in starting and moving the car over a 10 year period.)
2020 entire Tim Brando collection is sold at mecums. the cobra went for 130k reserve was 125k
the full build of the car is validated.

mrmustang · #10 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by steveguess

so the story goes as follows:
2009 shelby american chassis sold to T&E legendary, genesis 427 side oiler iron block matched with a 4 sp toploader is installed.
2010 car goes to mecum auction in Kansas city with 1 mile on it and is sold to Tim Brando TNT collection for $84k without signature on the glove box.
2011-2012 Tim Brando ( CBS sports broadcaster ) is a close personal friend of Carroll Shelby gets him to sign the car ( it is possibly the last car he signed but there is no provenance of that.
2010-2020 the car sits in the TNT muscle car collection ( 19 miles acquired in starting and moving the car over a 10 year period.)
2020 entire Tim Brando collection is sold at mecums. the cobra went for 130k reserve was 125k
the full build of the car is validated.

Yet, the question remains, did you buy it

steveguess · #11 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 05:42 PM

and yes i did buy it

patrickt · #12 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by steveguess

and yes i did buy it

Well this is fun; when do you get to take it for a first ride?

mrmustang · #13 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by steveguess

and yes i did buy it

Kind of figured you did, congratulations, can't wait to hear your impressions once you get behind the wheel.

Bill S.

xb-60 · #14 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 08:56 PM

Congratulations on the purchase. All excellent information from Jim, except that the tyres would be 11 years old, so definitely replace them before any remotely serious driving.

Cheers!
Glen

sd427 · #15 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 10:18 PM

Coming up on the NBCSN tv coverage soon. 9:18 Pacific as I type this.

steveguess · #16 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 06:30 PM

it is being delivered to utah this coming week. i arrive in utah on the 24th. apparently the car runs fine, it was moved several times at the auction and i watched it on tv cross the bidding block on it's own power. the guy i was dealing with on the phone said it's loud as hell, they had to shut it off to do the bidding.

patrickt · #17 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 06:34 PM

Alright, then we'll look for a first drive vid to be posted on the 25th.

1795 · #18 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 07:15 PM

Steve,

Congratulations and enjoy. Unless they said that all of the fluids have been changed, I would suggest changing the oil and checking the radiator fluid. Not enough miles to make much of a difference on the transmission or differential. Although, it probably would not hurt to change them as well, as oil does tend to deteriorate over time. Take a close look at the age of the tires, if original replace them as they will have deteriorated over time. My only other suggestions would be to keep the revs at 4,000 or below for the first few hundred miles as you break things in, and make the first drive a long enough one to bring the engine up to temp and burn off any condensation that has collected. It is possible that the engine has not been brought up to temp in some time, if ever if it was only moved around to change storage spots.

Good luck, and yes please post video.

Jim

sd427 · #19 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 10:51 PM

Just went across on the tv coverage, looked nice.

steveguess · #20 (**permalink**) 07-18-2020, 11:30 PM

hi
thanks everybody
i definitely intend to change all fluids, i assume the oil filter will be a standard spec? i believe the tires are bias ply, which i'm sure would have it tracking all over the road. as far as the break in period, according to the owners best knowledge the car has yet to exceed 20 miles per hour. it still baffles me how you could possibly own this and at least not punch it once. this may not be a daily for me but to hell if it doesn't at least make it to a few Walmart parking lots. i live in draper utah and there are 6 canyon runs less than half an hour away from me AND this will piss everyone off no doubt, i have a foreign drivers licence SO i can get monetary fines but no points and the state cannot suspend a licence they didn't issue AND it is titled and insured by a trust so tickets to me do not affect the insurance on the car. is everyone taking notes yet?