AC Continuation or Kirkham

[FatBoy]

I suspect the market is wising up to the somewhat flaky provenence of these so called "continuation" cars from AC, hence the failure of COX3361 to reach its reserve. I also think that many of these cars are tainted by the Lubinsky connection.

While the genuine cars are increasing in value at a depressing (at least for those of us who don't have one) rate, anything without real history and provenence is viewed with suspicion, which is reflected in the value.

I've read many claims about the quality of the later AC built cars, but in my experience, which admittedly, isn't vast, the quality isn't that high. You certainly wouldn't want a polished aluminium body on a Mk.IV in the way that many Kirkham owners do and that probably goes for the "continuation" cars as well. Many of the components used were raided from the parts bins of much lesser Ford models.

Nicely built Kirkhams are around the £100K mark in the UK.

Would I swap my Kirkham for one of these AC "continuations" if someone offered? Probably not.

Paul

[london]

Originally Posted by FatBoy

I suspect the market is wising up to the somewhat flaky provenence of these so called "continuation" cars from AC, hence the failure of COX3361 to reach its reserve. I also think that many of these cars are tainted by the Lubinsky connection.

While the genuine cars are increasing in value at a depressing (at least for those of us who don't have one) rate, anything without real history and provenence is viewed with suspicion, which is reflected in the value.

I've read many claims about the quality of the later AC built cars, but in my experience, which admittedly, isn't vast, the quality isn't that high. You certainly wouldn't want a polished aluminium body on a Mk.IV in the way that many Kirkham owners do and that probably goes for the "continuation" cars as well. Many of the components used were raided from the parts bins of much lesser Ford models.

Nicely built Kirkhams are around the £100K mark in the UK.

Would I swap my Kirkham for one of these AC "continuations" if someone offered? Probably not.

Paul

The AC Mk IVs I have seen are well built cars - admittedly the interior is not original but then these cars are a separate model in their own right rather than an exact clone of the 60s cars. However if you buy an AC you're buying a real marque with a history: the pre-war 16/70 drophead coupe, the Ace Bristol, the AC Le Mans Coupe 'A98' racing up the M1 on its test run at 180mph, the class win by '39PH' at Le Mans in 1963, the Italian styled AC 428, the mid-engined 3000ME. Your MkIV could well have been built by the same men who built some of the aforementioned cars. I'd therefore rather have an AC than the perfect Kirkham clone.

[RON N BKFLD]

The AC Mk IVs I have seen are well built cars - admittedly the interior is not original but then these cars are a separate model in their own right rather than an exact clone of the 60s cars. However if you buy an AC you're buying a real marque with a history: the pre-war 16/70 drophead coupe, the Ace Bristol, the AC Le Mans Coupe 'A98' racing up the M1 on its test run at 180mph, the class win by '39PH' at Le Mans in 1963, the Italian styled AC 428, the mid-engined 3000ME. Your MkIV could well have been built by the same men who built some of the aforementioned cars. I'd therefore rather have an AC than the perfect Kirkham clone.

Looks like the question in post #1 is answered.

[FatBoy]

Originally Posted by RON N BKFLD

Looks like the question in post #1 is answered.

But the question wasn't about Mk.IVs, it was about these so called "continuation" cars from AC with the flaky histories.
The Mk.IV "Cobras" are legitimate cars that aren't claiming to be anything other than what they are, apart from maybe "Cobras".