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09-22-2008, 03:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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My opinion is that the car is worth in the $150k range. It's definitely worth more than a top notch alloy 4000 car, but not that much more. The "AC" tie-in is borderline comical given how far removed any form of the modern AC is from the Cobra's original roots. I do not believe the AC factor, or the CSX1000 series VIN give the car that much more value.
The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.
CSX1001 definitely has a place in Continuation Cobra history, and it's a rare car for sure. I just don't feel it's extra attributes add all that much to the dollar value.
I would put the value of a CSX1000 series in between an alloy CSX4000 car and a McClusky Completion car.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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09-22-2008, 03:52 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
My opinion is that the car is worth in the $150k range. It's definitely worth more than a top notch alloy 4000 car, but not that much more. The "AC" tie-in is borderline comical given how far removed any form of the modern AC is from the Cobra's original roots. I do not believe the AC factor, or the CSX1000 series VIN give the car that much more value.
The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.
CSX1001 definitely has a place in Continuation Cobra history, and it's a rare car for sure. I just don't feel it's extra attributes add all that much to the dollar value.
I would put the value of a CSX1000 series in between an alloy CSX4000 car and a McClusky Completion car.
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Not often I agree 100% with Sal these days, but in this case just make it "X2"
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09-22-2008, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by Power Surge
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The source of the body bucks isn't that important to the value either. Even if they were the originals (which they were not), the value would have come from the original people pounding on them, not the bucks themselves. Heck, most original cars weren't shaped the same anyway.
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Even with the damage done to AC by Alan Lubinsky, I still think the AC connection to the CSX 1000 series adds value. I would think a connection to the original tooling would be valuable, but apparently it is not the original buck. It would also be interesting to use the original people, yet all of them are probably retired by now. Consider that some people prefer a Shelby CSX Cobra to a Kirkham replica, yet the original Shelby people like Remington, Brock, Miles, etc. are not employed by the current SAI company.
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09-22-2008, 07:34 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Even with the damage done to AC by Alan Lubinsky, I still think the AC connection to the CSX 1000 series adds value. I would think a connection to the original tooling would be valuable, but apparently it is not the original buck. It would also be interesting to use the original people, yet all of them are probably retired by now. Consider that some people prefer a Shelby CSX Cobra to a Kirkham replica, yet the original Shelby people like Remington, Brock, Miles, etc. are not employed by the current SAI company.
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Yes I agree, and I am not saying the CSX1000 doesn't have a higher value over a CSX4000 series. I absolutely believe it does. I just don't think it's a considerable number, in the resale market. I don't believe that people are going to pay a considerable amount of money more for a CSX1000 car over a nice alloy CSX4000 car. I really don't think the AC "connection" on the CSX1000 series add enough value to warrant a large dollar value increase.
Here's a similar scenario.... Backdraft Coupe vs SPF Coupe. Both priced very similarly, yet the SPF Coupe was actually designed by Peter Brock. Not inspired by Brock, or endorsed by Brock, but actually designed by him. And yet there's no added "dollar value" from that over other similar quality Coupes.
If that makes sense to you, that's the point I am making on the CSX1000 deal.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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09-23-2008, 04:08 AM
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Surge
Yes I agree, and I am not saying the CSX1000 doesn't have a higher value over a CSX4000 series. I absolutely believe it does. I just don't think it's a considerable number, in the resale market. I don't believe that people are going to pay a considerable amount of money more for a CSX1000 car over a nice alloy CSX4000 car. I really don't think the AC "connection" on the CSX1000 series add enough value to warrant a large dollar value increase.
Here's a similar scenario.... Backdraft Coupe vs SPF Coupe. Both priced very similarly, yet the SPF Coupe was actually designed by Peter Brock. Not inspired by Brock, or endorsed by Brock, but actually designed by him. And yet there's no added "dollar value" from that over other similar quality Coupes.
If that makes sense to you, that's the point I am making on the CSX1000 deal.
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I agree with Alan, around $165K , give or take some. I believe there are no more CSX1000's being made, with just 10 or 20 made. So there is definitely a limited supply, and all it takes is one buyer. If your willing to wait for that buyer, I bet you would get 165 at some point, maybe right away, maybe not.
The coupe thing is not exactly the same, as neither the Brock coupe or the BDR coupe are identical to the originals in design/construction, which I believe detracts from the value for some, maybe alot, of the consumers, where as the CSX1000 car is identical in construction to the original, as are the alum Csx4000's and kirkhams.
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